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    Quote Originally Posted by cougarz View Post
    just for statistics: today i lost my 3,5" 250gb seagate desktop drive. It was mounted horizontally, dumped with 4 springs and some foam. Before i mounted i tried to simulate some bump and i saw the spring/foam system dumpening it quite well.
    I live in italy, i had some bad start this winter when temperature goes under -3C. Now i still can look in some folders, but he's dying, every day some folder is not more accessible (acced denied). I will check sectors and so but i guess the baby has gone.
    My next buy will be probably a 2,5" dumped like last one.
    Springs make it worse. Instead of 1 bump, now you have 1 bump, 1/2 bump, 1/4 bump, 1/8 bump and so on depending on the spring itself, but basically you are making 1 bad bump into multiple little ones.
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    even if it's well dumped? Do you suggest to mount it directly to car frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cougarz View Post
    just for statistics: today i lost my 3,5" 250gb seagate desktop drive. It was mounted horizontally, dumped with 4 springs and some foam. Before i mounted i tried to simulate some bump and i saw the spring/foam system dumpening it quite well.
    I live in italy, i had some bad start this winter when temperature goes under -3C. Now i still can look in some folders, but he's dying, every day some folder is not more accessible (acced denied). I will check sectors and so but i guess the baby has gone.
    My next buy will be probably a 2,5" dumped like last one.
    I think you mean damped. This mounting option may have "CAUSED" your failure by making the motion worse.

    The engineers at the auto company made your car suspension for a reason. Let it do the work for you. Mount the Hard Drive firmly to the car.
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    ok i will trust you and mount it rigid!Thanks!

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    Mount it vertically as well, not flat horizontally!
    If you mount it flat, it's mounted on the same plane that the heads platters are, making more likely that the heads will come into contact on harsh bumps...
    If you mount it vertically, your removing this scenario almost completely out of the equation.
    I once used an OmniFi MP3 player in the car...they also reccomended vertical drive mounting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WuNgUn View Post
    Mount it vertically as well, not flat horizontally!
    If you mount it flat, it's mounted on the same plane that the heads platters are, making more likely that the heads will come into contact on harsh bumps...
    If you mount it vertically, your removing this scenario almost completely out of the equation.
    I once used an OmniFi MP3 player in the car...they also reccomended vertical drive mounting...
    With lots of examples for orientation, we, the MP3car community has ZERO consensus on orientation.

    My view for what it is worth, mount it firmly in whatever orientation works for your install and never look back.

    From what I have read it is far more common to have other issues.
    Loose connections
    mismatched parts
    driver conflicts
    power supply issues
    Poor install practices
    matching the OEM look.

    If you plan and execute carefully you will minimize your risks of the issues mentioned above.
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    hold on... mount it firmly or on dampeners?

    Firm and it'll vibrate as much as the car... Badly dampened, and it could shake even when the car's not anymore...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jongscx View Post
    hold on... mount it firmly or on dampeners?

    Firm and it'll vibrate as much as the car... Badly dampened, and it could shake even when the car's not anymore...
    Firmly.... I believe I have been consistent on that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruckinMP3 View Post
    Firmly.... I believe I have been consistent on that point.


    Dampen it and you make it worse. Much worse unless you do it properly. A spring is very very very bad.

    Best bet is to use a smart drive with an accelerometer so if at Gs > threshold, park head type logic.
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    uhm..i just ordered a 5400.4 but i see it has not this feature. It seems the 5400.5 has it, a bit more expensive but also more capable (320gb). If this is more safe i will go for it and change my order. Can you please confirm that what i said is true? Thanks

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