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    Best availiable MB/CPU/Case for this conditions?

    I need MB which could take FULL size PCI card (Lynx 22). Also any recomendations for a smallest case which will work with them and fastest CPU which can easly run in the such small case. I need it to be relaiable, not generate too much heat and as fast as I can have it - going to run complex audio correction stuff

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    Wow - this is precisely why I can't stand this place any more.

    SPOON FEED ME!!! I'm not willing to do ANY of my own work but I sure as hell want it ALL. Just tell me what to get!!

    good god....
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    LCat, the majority of your post have "what is the best" in it....You need to do the research yourself, no one here is going to do it for you because if you actually read the threads on here you will find out what the best is for your setup. Like RedGTiVR6 said in one of your other posts, if you dont want to do the research then buy one that is already setup off the store here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LCat View Post
    I need MB which could take FULL size PCI card (Lynx 22). Also any recomendations for a smallest case which will work with them and fastest CPU which can easly run in the such small case. I need it to be relaiable, not generate too much heat and as fast as I can have it - going to run complex audio correction stuff
    You will need to be much more specific in your needs:
    Space: where will you put it
    What will you run: applications
    what will you power it with
    what auto will it go in
    how many usb devices will you use
    what os is planned.

    Help yourself first: Read the FAQ and the project forum, start planning, then ask a better question.
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    I can't think of any mini ITX board that won't allow a PCI card, but what you seem to be missing (you mentioned that the Commell/Global wouldn't work in another thread) that there are flex risers that allow for a PCI card to go across the top of a MB (parallel) rather than perpendicular to the board. Some boards (not all) will allow for 2 cards on the same PCI slot, using a riser, with no added height by going away from the MB.

    I suggest you look over at Logic Supply for ideas. They seem to have the best range of cases and available setups to help you. They aren't the cheapest, so might shop around after you figure it all out.

    I've ran full size PCI video cards (with a fan) across the top of a Voom Style case before. After a few less than desirable setups, I decided to go with a board that is all inclusive (no PCI cards needed) like that Commell board. However, I have a case that can add 2 pci cards if needed (who knows what might be coming).

    http://www.logicsupply.com/products/cd_137
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruckinMP3 View Post
    You will need to be much more specific in your needs:
    Space: where will you put it
    What will you run: applications
    what will you power it with
    what auto will it go in
    how many usb devices will you use
    what os is planned.

    Help yourself first: Read the FAQ and the project forum, start planning, then ask a better question.
    Well like I've mentioned before - I need to find a case which can host Mini-ITX board and a full size PCI using a riser - so smallest case capable of doing it defines my space req
    It will run some convolver functions on the back end so it will be CPU hungry - looks like new VIA Neo is a minimum requirement of Core Duos - I can fully consume 1.7 Ghz CoreDuo 2(bring it to 80%cpu utilisation)

    I'm not 100% shure what I would be powering it with but it will be one of DC-DC suppluys - potentialy Carnetix CNX-P2140 185W Dual Output Intelligent DC-DC Regulator but OPUS 320W Intelligent DC-DC PSU looks realy good with it's smart shutdown, etc...

    Not quite sure what the OS/Car has to do with requirements for a case/mobo )) but since you asked - Windows XP Tiny or Vista vLite if I have to use CentreFuse and could not bypass K-Mixer and car is beeing one off AMG E55 with Kleemann Stage 7 making close to 800hp and bunch of other mods, custom interior, big audio system, etc...... The only relevant information about car is this - suspention is pretty stiff so I will have to do extra care bout vibration control, moverboard reinforcment, PCI card bracket, SSD, etc.

    As far as USB devices - the more the merier but then there is allways external USB hubs )))))

    I honestly think I provided all trully relavant info in the first post though -
    case + MB capable of hosting PCI card - required and then in the order of priority, - small, ability to host fast CPU, good heat disapation

    Planingwise - I've done so many home media centers and HDD based high-fi players and just recently finished hacking Pioneers AVIC F series navigator/integrated media center what I'm only asking a specific questions related to what components should I choose for a car specific install, and a bluetoth integration - everything else is figured out so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielkh View Post
    I can't think of any mini ITX board that won't allow a PCI card, but what you seem to be missing (you mentioned that the Commell/Global wouldn't work in another thread) that there are flex risers that allow for a PCI card to go across the top of a MB (parallel) rather than perpendicular to the board. Some boards (not all) will allow for 2 cards on the same PCI slot, using a riser, with no added height by going away from the MB.

    I suggest you look over at Logic Supply for ideas. They seem to have the best range of cases and available setups to help you. They aren't the cheapest, so might shop around after you figure it all out.

    I've ran full size PCI video cards (with a fan) across the top of a Voom Style case before. After a few less than desirable setups, I decided to go with a board that is all inclusive (no PCI cards needed) like that Commell board. However, I have a case that can add 2 pci cards if needed (who knows what might be coming).

    http://www.logicsupply.com/products/cd_137
    Commvel/Global only suport PCI-E and MiniPCI and there are no adapters to make FULL PCI board to work with them - wich trully breaks my heart - greate boards/chipsets. I'm sorry what i did not clarified it before but of course I was planing to use PCI raisers - I'm not planning to install 4 Rack high case in car LOL,
    Looked at the logic supplies - still trying to figure out which cases there would run PCI card. Never thought Voom woulf fit PCI though Right now I'm considering OPUS ITX - kind of big though and Travla C158 Mini-ITX Case

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    Quote Originally Posted by LCat View Post
    Commvel/Global only suport PCI-E and MiniPCI and there are no adapters to make FULL PCI board to work with them - wich trully breaks my heart - greate boards/chipsets. I'm sorry what i did not clarified it before but of course I was planing to use PCI raisers - I'm not planning to install 4 Rack high case in car LOL,
    Looked at the logic supplies - still trying to figure out which cases there would run PCI card. Never thought Voom woulf fit PCI though Right now I'm considering OPUS ITX - kind of big though and Travla C158 Mini-ITX Case

    The great thing about the Commell/Global/Kino boards is all inclusiveness. As mine sits, I don't even use the PCI slot and not sure what I would ever need to use it for. And while the boards are more expensive, you save money by not having to buy addon stuff like sound or video. The sound is great and the video is just as fast as a standalone PCI video. And that commell board would blow my Kino out of the water.

    I use the C137 and here is the layout.

    2004 350Z Installation part 3.....

    The M2-ATX fits perfectly in front of the MB and the holes are already there. Just need the risers.
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    danielkh - telling this guy that he doesn't need an external or another sound card other than onboard, would be like telling me the same thing.

    For a lot of people in the world, just being ok isn't good enough.

    For someone who is perfectly willing to spend $1000 on a Lynx sound card, that mentality doesn't fly. Just the same as it wouldn't fly for me.

    If he has a need for a PCI card, then he has a need. Trying to get him to change those needs doesn't do anything to help him in his quest....though, he could help himself by simply looking through the available solutions out there...
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