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Thread: What a defragged disk SHOULD look like...

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    What a defragged disk SHOULD look like...

    Here is a screen-shot of my carputers 500GB HDD, as seen thru DiskTrix after optimization.



    What is of particular interest is the layout. This is the view of the disk as the data is laid out physically on the platters...
    The largest, outer diameter of the disk is the fastest moving, and hence, has the best read/write times...this is where your critical files should be kept...

    I have the following folders here:
    Windows, Boot, 'my applications', Program Data, Program Files and navigation databases...

    Conversely, the inner portion has the slowest read/write performance, and this is where all my media is kept...

    Also note, in the legend, where the hibernate, pagefile and MFT are kept...right on the outer sectors, inline, and in one piece...
    This is probably the best place for these files, especially for quick bootup from Hibernate...

    Also note the degree of fragmentation...just 0.01%, or 12 files worth 13MB.
    I'm totally happy with this!

    Disktrix, as far as I know, is the only defragger to do this type of layout. And it gives you total freedom on what and where you want your files defragged.
    Plus, with 6 defrag methods, and the ability to defrag just your "High Performance" files, leaving the "Backup" files (your media) alone, (or defrag everything for that matter!) a refresh defrag to stay on top of the health of your HDD, takes just minutes...exactly what you need in a carputer!

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    Also, don't forget a good registry cleaning and defragging. You almost ALWAYS see immediate results doing that...

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    Auslogic's defrag utility can also to performance optimizing like that. I do believe diskkeeper will as well, but it isn't as good as Auslogic or Disktrix. I haven't played with that one before, but I'm super curious now

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    Did you notice any difference with your system? Ive used DiskTrix to manually optimize my pagefile.sys, hiberfile.sys, and boot files and did not really notice any gain in load/boot/or resume from hibernation times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobb View Post
    Did you notice any difference with your system? Ive used DiskTrix to manually optimize my pagefile.sys, hiberfile.sys, and boot files and did not really notice any gain in load/boot/or resume from hibernation times.
    The difference in average access time from the outer edge to the inner is just a matter of milliseconds...it's not going to be night and day faster, but as a whole, it's an improvement...

    As far as I know, DiskTrix is the only defragger that can optimize like this.

    It's kinda weird though, because all HDD's have more than 1 platter, so the physical representation in the program must be a 'combined' view of the disk?

    I asked them about RAID striping too, and how the program knows where the outer and inner portions are on spanned disks...they never answered back...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by WuNgUn View Post
    The difference in average access time from the outer edge to the inner is just a matter of milliseconds...it's not going to be night and day faster, but as a whole, it's an improvement...

    As far as I know, DiskTrix is the only defragger that can optimize like this.

    It's kinda weird though, because all HDD's have more than 1 platter, so the physical representation in the program must be a 'combined' view of the disk?

    I asked them about RAID striping too, and how the program knows where the outer and inner portions are on spanned disks...they never answered back...lol
    It's a gimmick. Their little graphics don't show the real locations of the files on the disk, just lets you feel like your disk is SUPER optimized.

    Gimmick. Nothing more.

    That's not to say that it doesn't do a good job defragging the files though.
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    by the looks of whats going on in that pic, it reminds me of the OOOOoooollllllddddd win 95-ME defrag, that program just put it in a spiral instead of a top down representation... btw.. im sold on gimics ill hafta check that program out... in the world of car shows and showing off a ride, gimics sell... and that looks like something good enough to have displayed on a screen at a show ^_^

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    Also FYI, there will be no performance gain. It's all placebo effect sorry to say.

    The harddrive doesnt send out the information directly from the platter to the processor. There are lots of electronics inside including a bunch of data buffers. That way the data is fully there when it is requested or about to be sent to the cache and from there to the various io streams externally.

    The whole point of the first buffers is that they obey a maximum time delay scheme. if you had data on the inside or outside it may get to the buffer inputs faster or slower, but it waits for a "worst case" time before it samples and latches the data into the buffer. So all data fetched takes exactly the same time.

    The performance gain comes from putting things in sequential areas, so the head doesnt have to move back and forth a lot which is mechanical and slow. It can keep the head in one spot and just read different sectors along the line. So the position of the data ring doesnt matter, just that it is actually in a ring configuration is what helps.
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