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    Opus 150 w/ Core 2 Duo? or atom 330?

    I'm on my 3rd carPC now and until now I've never had a need for a dual core machine in the car. Dashcommand seems to be very CPU intensive and on m10000 just won't meet the need anymore. My wife asked me what I wanted for Christmas and I thought about upgrading my carPC to something newer.

    I already have newer RAM, and knowing everything else will work with a newer board already...

    Does anyone have an opus 150 working with a dual caore mobo? I know the newer boards will require a p4 connector. I just though about getting a few molex to P4 converters so I can add 20+4 and a P4 connector to the powersupply.

    I also thought about getting an atom 330 dual core instead of a core2duo due to its power consumption. Im not needing any HD video output just need something that will play flash skins and run dashcommand without causing my mp3's to skip.

    Any thoughts?
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    im going to suggest a 45w TDP processor, and everyone else here will probably say get the atom.

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    Ahh, the AMD eh? well, what about the OPUS, thats my 1st concern.

    What Mobo would you suggest?
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    Well alot of people do not care about overkill, so all will say get a ATOM 330. Me on the other hand, like to think ahead, as far as what software is going to require in the future. More softwares are becoming bigger, and hungrier, that I decided to go with a quad core system. Problem is, you would have to replace the OPUS 150 with a OPUS 360. but you know your setup will not get old anytime soon.

    What front end, OS, and other things will you be using? I heard on some setups CF's new transisitions arent very nice with slower systems, but should do fine on a dual core setup.

    If you want a good mobo, let me find the link.... Its a ATOM 330, but with a nVidia ION chipset. I have heard these things are spectacular. The ATOMs that are 100% INTEL chipset, have this weird bug with USB based soundcards.
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    you can get 45w core2duo's and even 4-core amd's in 45w flavor now. both will work just fine with 150w power supplies. desktop chips are not overkill for carpc's imo. its much more the atom chips being underpowered and most people just having the patience for them. youll hear people say they still work just as fast as anything else yadda yadda, but the atom is simply not a mainstream chip and was never meant to be. its not even about how fast or slow they seem because everyone runs different software and everyones perception is different. its about technical specifications and physical limits of the architecture. intel never even wanted people using them in desktops... it was really the retail stores that pushed them as real cpu's so everyone just bought into it.

    for what most of the old timers do with their carpc's here, just playing music and sd videos.. the atoms are working well. there is zero headroom though, no upgrade path and you will be limited on what you can actually do later on when your brain thinks of whatever the next cool idea is, like hijax was sayin

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    Atom is slightly cheaper but overall system power consumption of both systems are similar, especially if you clock the c2d down to 1.xGhz (even better if you can undervolt). Atom = cheap, Core2=more expensive but decent all around. In UMPC's, Core and Core2 processors seem to get the same battery life as Atoms, just not with the clock frequencies and voltages cranked. I've got the Opus 180W DC-DC that only gets loaded about 50% at peak with a Core2 at 3GHz and GeForce 9300 onboard video. This does NOT include LCD draw, usb devices, etc but those can easily be powered or relayed externally.

    They do have 65w Core2Quads but that's a bit overkill for anything in a vehicle. I think a dual core Atom can handle sound processing and whatever apps you want but taking longer to do it all, including boot up. I'm also not sure about 45w Core2's that are socket 775 so you would need a Socket P motherboard to run one. I love Intel's recent cpu's but AMD's Cool'n'Quiet stuff works very well at saving electricity.

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    Im trying to keep the upgrade under $200 including CPU. I have ram and HD. I'll be using is the onboard video. No other cards. USB will have touchscreen, OBDII, Car2PC adapter and GPS.

    Any suggestions?
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    One option is to have a look at the Intel DG45FC motherboard.

    Its a mini-itx form factor, but will take standard LGA 775 processors, so you can slot in anything you like really.

    Then go for a low power core2duo, and should be able to keep the budget around the $200US mark, and still keep the Opus 150W as well.

    I'm running an opus 120W with an Intel atom dual core, 2.5inch notebook drive, 7 inch touchscreen powered through the opus, GPS, OBD, bluetooth, full size desktop DVD drive, and a big 120mm fan, and the 120W opus doesnt even blink.

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    Thanks for the reply & ideas!

    Your atom.. 330 I take it? Would you have went core2duo if you you had the option?
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