Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 11 to 20 of 20

Thread: Fast Boot: USB devices impact on BIOS post times

  1. #11
    Constant Bitrate simplex's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Budapest, Hungary
    Posts
    151
    Maybe you should add USB devices after 10-30 secs, for example,
    give power to the USB hub 10s after computer boot.
    First, try to do this manually, and if it works,
    you can get some timing electrics for it.

    More: I'm planning do this on-demand, for example, with an RS232 or USB relay controller,
    and a program for it, integrated on the frontend/window manager. For example:
    -it gives power to the touchscreen after OS fully booted
    -when you start the GPS in the frontend, it gives power to the GPS device
    -when you start the music player, it gives power to the USB DAC/sound card
    etc, etc...
    You can also control other devices with it, like mirrors, windows, etc...

    For example:
    http://microcontrollershop.com/produ...roducts_id=642
    Check my worklog:
    Corsa + Atom + Gentoo Linux + 9" capacitive touchscreen

    Lord of the boards: DFI CP100-NRM

    "Or you can try Ubuntu, but than don't tell everyone you are using linux,
    because it's just a secret unreleased prebeta of Windows 3829" :P

  2. #12
    Maximum Bitrate Crinos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Kristiansand, Norway
    Posts
    489
    FusionBrain can do all that and more, and you'll support fellow board members by buying it

    Delayed power to USB hub is one way to do it. Just make sure the hub-ports is inactive/disabeled when the hub is offline. Otherwise it will try to power the devices with the power coming on the line; PC - > USB-Hub.

  3. #13
    Constant Bitrate
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    London, United Kingdom
    Posts
    200
    I've not tested this to the extent of you lot and I don't have the same board.

    My board is a zotac 9300-ITX which is a completely different kettle of fish.

    However I believe if you change your BIOS to 'PnP OS: Yes' (not exact wording as it changes from board to board). I think this will stop your bios issues as it won't bother addressing any PnP devices, it will leave it for the OS to deal with.

    This SHOULD solve your problems, I know this and a few other select settings in my XBMC HTPC at home greatly improved boot times where it used to hang for long periods due to PnP devices.

    Let us know if you have success with this.

  4. #14
    FLAC
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    1,024
    U have all the right components, except your motherboard's bios sucks.
    Believe me i've dealt with this board, and the bios is complete garbage. However, this board does support S3 hibernation, this will definitely solve all of your problem. After all these years of looking for the best boot time. I finally gave up and use s3 hibernation and i'm glad i did. There's more and more members trying this, so you should give it a try as well.

  5. #15
    Maximum Bitrate DeltaFX's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    France
    Posts
    499
    Powering a hub after windows starts is fine, but make sure it is still powered when windos resume from hibernation/STR.
    Now Galileo is real. Muhahahahaha :p

  6. #16
    Constant Bitrate simplex's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Budapest, Hungary
    Posts
    151
    Quote Originally Posted by Crinos View Post
    FusionBrain can do all that and more, and you'll support fellow board members by buying it

    Delayed power to USB hub is one way to do it. Just make sure the hub-ports is inactive/disabeled when the hub is offline. Otherwise it will try to power the devices with the power coming on the line; PC - > USB-Hub.
    Oh my god, I searched the whole net for something like this, and as always,
    the most trivial solution wins: it's in the shop!!! Thank you
    Check my worklog:
    Corsa + Atom + Gentoo Linux + 9" capacitive touchscreen

    Lord of the boards: DFI CP100-NRM

    "Or you can try Ubuntu, but than don't tell everyone you are using linux,
    because it's just a secret unreleased prebeta of Windows 3829" :P

  7. #17
    Mod - iPad Forums RipplingHurst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Danville, CA
    Posts
    2,176
    Quote Originally Posted by TheGuv View Post
    I've not tested this to the extent of you lot and I don't have the same board.

    My board is a zotac 9300-ITX which is a completely different kettle of fish.

    However I believe if you change your BIOS to 'PnP OS: Yes' (not exact wording as it changes from board to board).

    Let us know if you have success with this.
    I don't think my MB has that option...I'll check it out though.

    I wonder why would BIOS care if there was a HID or a webcam or whatever plugged. There shouldn't be any difference, as they're all usb devices! They should have a int, mem allocated, 5v and that's it.

    And how Apple computers can get rid of bios altogether? How can we do that too?

    Finally, is this board any good? I want a 775 or better mini ITX board and I was thinking about anything NOT-intel. Suggestions?

    Zotac GF 9300, $117.00 at Amazon. [edit: it's not this one, my mistake, it's the ITX version)] Is this the one you have? How about boot times?

  8. #18
    Mod - iPad Forums RipplingHurst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Danville, CA
    Posts
    2,176
    Quote Originally Posted by Crinos View Post
    FusionBrain can do all that and more, and you'll support fellow board members by buying it

    Delayed power to USB hub is one way to do it. Just make sure the hub-ports is inactive/disabeled when the hub is offline. Otherwise it will try to power the devices with the power coming on the line; PC - > USB-Hub.
    How can you disable or render inactive a usb port with Windows 7? Xport won't work with windows 7, not that feature at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Punky View Post
    U have all the right components, except your motherboard's bios sucks.
    Believe me i've dealt with this board, and the bios is complete garbage. However, this board does support S3 hibernation, this will definitely solve all of your problem. l.
    I'm trying S3 right now! I think it's going to work, except for the Garmin GPS which does not work after hibernation. I'd like to disable it and then enable it after resuming...

  9. #19
    FLAC
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    1,024

    Xport

    Quote Originally Posted by RipplingHurst View Post
    How can you disable or render inactive a usb port with Windows 7? Xport won't work with windows 7, not that feature at least.



    I'm trying S3 right now! I think it's going to work, except for the Garmin GPS which does not work after hibernation. I'd like to disable it and then enable it after resuming...
    My xport works perfectly with windows 7 RC. No idea why it wouldn't work for you. When u get xport running that problem will be solved.

  10. #20
    Mod - iPad Forums RipplingHurst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Danville, CA
    Posts
    2,176
    Quote Originally Posted by Punky View Post
    My xport works perfectly with windows 7 RC. No idea why it wouldn't work for you. When u get xport running that problem will be solved.

    Xport DOES work for me with Windows 7, but the COM port replication thing. It does not work for stopping and reestarting USB devices.

    It's an issue with Garmin drivers, they're really poorly written. Lot's of posts on Garmin forums, no answers from them.

    Now I've just found out, after adopting the hybrid sleep solution with the DSATX + Windows 7, that Garmin apparently DOES wake up fine after sleep, it just does not after hibernating (full off). After hibernating, just a restart will fix things.

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Similar Threads

  1. Core Duo / Core 2 Duo Mini-ITX boards
    By RedGTiVR6 in forum General Hardware Discussion
    Replies: 153
    Last Post: 10-03-2010, 10:30 PM
  2. Full XP on USB,someone tryed this?
    By gradecak in forum Software & Software Development
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-20-2008, 06:36 AM
  3. M2-ATX + USB = no boot
    By blueye in forum Power Supplies
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-12-2007, 09:02 PM
  4. Replies: 45
    Last Post: 04-04-2005, 03:32 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •