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    OK, did some research, I don't know why I didn't see this before. It is the only mini-itx, core 2 quad I have ever seen. Jetway NF93 Core 2 Duo Mobile Mini-ITX Motherboard My only issue is that Jetway boards always seem to have issues. I read nothing but complaints on their stuff. This board supports the Intel Core 2 Quad Mobile (Penryn). This Mobo may actually be the one I am looking for. It boasts 4 com ports, 1 DVI-D, and 1 VGA.

    Thanx for creating this thread. I would never have researched in detail to find you a board, since I gave up on myself.

    I called Mo-Co-So and they say that this Jetway is very solid and reliable, otherwise they wouldnt sell it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZX1Cruizer View Post
    OK, did some research, I don't know why I didn't see this before. It is the only mini-itx, core 2 quad I have ever seen. Jetway NF93 Core 2 Duo Mobile Mini-ITX Motherboard My only issue is that Jetway boards always seem to have issues. I read nothing but complaints on their stuff. This board supports the Intel Core 2 Quad Mobile (Penryn). This Mobo may actually be the one I am looking for. It boasts 4 com ports, 1 DVI-D, and 1 VGA.
    Seriously though, core2quad mobile? Oxy-moron . Perhaps its the cheap-skate in me, but you are looking at $300 for the cheapest oem core2quad mobile processor. For a board that is already $200 with no other stand-out features (except for perhaps rs-232 headers). Ouch. Performance on par with a $140 processor and 80$ board, you just pay double for 20-50w reduction. Not me, man, not me.

    I'm still curious though-
    Are the programs you are using going to take advantage of the additional 2 cores? Perhaps an increased clock speed would actually yield a better result. The E8600 would overclock well in the dual core world, though overclocking inevitably leads to heat. Just food for thought...

    Quote Originally Posted by ZX1Cruizer View Post
    That was the one that I linked earlier (but to a vendor page), and what I think might still be the best choice. Don't know much about the PCI slot usage though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFCommanderBob View Post
    Seriously though, core2quad mobile? Oxy-moron . Perhaps its the cheap-skate in me, but you are looking at $300 for the cheapest oem core2quad mobile processor. For a board that is already $200 with no other stand-out features (except for perhaps rs-232 headers). Ouch. Performance on par with a $140 processor and 80$ board, you just pay double for 20-50w reduction. Not me, man, not me.

    I'm still curious though-
    Are the programs you are using going to take advantage of the additional 2 cores? Perhaps an increased clock speed would actually yield a better result. The E8600 would overclock well in the dual core world, though overclocking inevitably leads to heat. Just food for thought...
    This is basically what happens when you design a system a certain way. You are literally locked into what you need. I really want to be able to push Blu-Ray, run Emulators (3D based) and what not, rather easily with no slow ups. I think its also an EGO thing on my part. I want to be able to say that the system is Quad core based, although I may not be able to do it soon because the i7 seems to be catching up. Because of my setup though, I can not go to the i7. I guess audio wise, I just want something that sounds good, so I didnt care for a monster setup as far as audio.

    That was the one that I linked earlier (but to a vendor page), and what I think might still be the best choice. Don't know much about the PCI slot usage though.
    I had actually deleted it. It doesnt seem to be as feature rich as the board I linked to also. It still even had a printer port. Who the h3ll uses those, lol. As far as the PCI sharing is concerned, I think all mini-itx are going to have that down fall. i guess thats where making sure the setup has alot of RAM comes in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Dejan_ View Post
    You can look in my project thread what I run, In next week or two I will change sound card to one other(Already ordered)
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    Lets focus on fast POSt motherboards, WITHOUT sharing PCI resources without other devices...
    Well, it would be a bit easier to just write it down...
    Anyway, does your soundcard has ASIO drivers?
    The thing we saying with kev000 here, is that you are maybe focused on the
    wrong bottleneck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZX1Cruizer View Post
    OMFG, Dejan, I didn't realize that audio was so CPU intensive. I too have been looking for a quad core setup, but in mini-itx form. My issue is that it also has to have 4 com ports. So I literally gave up on Quad core and went to Dual Core. I would love to go to a bigger MoBo, but my install doesn't have the space, unless I do heavy mods to my already heavy moded seat that houses the MoBo. My reasons for quad core are different, I want to do it because I want to run heavy graphics in my setup. The audio I am simply going with a X-Fi 7.1 setup, which is good enough for me.

    Do you compete your car in audio contests?
    Audio is not CPU intensive but Processing Audio is very CPU intensive. Normal audio editing is not problem, same Phase linear EQ and crossovers are not very big problem and CPU can handle it. But Min-Fir need a lot of CPU power to normaly handle high quality audio(24Bit/96kHz)...

    I don't compete in audio contests. Maybe next year, I will see...

    I curently have Jetway NF93-LF but as Im say have problems because share PCI slot with others devices... It have 2 Back com ports and if Im right 3 internal(one can be used as RS232/485/422). S3 work good on it. Win7 work good on it. Speed is ok. BIOS POST time is average. But only big thing which is not ok is PCI slot

    Quote Originally Posted by simplex View Post
    Well, it would be a bit easier to just write it down...
    Anyway, does your soundcard has ASIO drivers?
    The thing we saying with kev000 here, is that you are maybe focused on the
    wrong bottleneck.
    Yes both sound card have ASIO drivers, otherwise you can't do audio processing...
    As Im say Linux and MAC is not option, only if can run Centrafuse and other windows&.NET based applications/plugins...

    I don't run on carpc only audio processing.
    There will be:
    -3 screen's for showing dashboard dials and other data from CAN-bus(must be in real time)
    -GPS Tracking realtime storing data into local SQL database and sending data to remote SQL database
    -Camera recording and maybe Real time Licence plate recognision
    -navigation

    and other things which can be run on carpc...

    If I will do only audio processing then I will shure use Mac PC...

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Dejan_ View Post
    Audio is not CPU intensive but Processing Audio is very CPU intensive. Normal audio editing is not problem, same Phase linear EQ and crossovers are not very big problem and CPU can handle it.
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    If you need a beefier solution, wait for Zotac H55-ITX WiFi. Check my thread for more info...

    Some features:
    -LGA1156 slot (Core i5, i7)
    -H55 bridge
    -PCI Express x16
    -2x DDR3
    -6x SATA-300
    -eSATA, SPDIF, HDMI, DVI on backpanel
    -802.11b/g/n WiFi

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    Quote Originally Posted by simplex View Post
    If you need a beefier solution, wait for Zotac H55-ITX WiFi. Check my thread for more info...

    Some features:
    -LGA1156 slot (Core i5, i7)
    -H55 bridge
    -PCI Express x16
    -2x DDR3
    -6x SATA-300
    -eSATA, SPDIF, HDMI, DVI on backpanel
    -802.11b/g/n WiFi

    If you put a Core i7 and an Asus Xonar HDAV 1.3 Deluxe in it, you will conquer the world
    How many time I must say that board with PCI Express and WITHOUT PCI slot is not option?
    Im not find good sound card on PCI Express under 500. Im find one RME but with extensions to make avalible 4way cost to much...

    Asus Soundcards have ASIO but DO NOT have Internal Routing. Without this is useless... I don't want anymore ASIO4ALL+VAC because is unprofessional and make only troubles...

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Dejan_ View Post
    How many time I must say that board with PCI Express and WITHOUT PCI slot is not option?
    Im not find good sound card on PCI Express under 500. Im find one RME but with extensions to make avalible 4way cost to much...

    Asus Soundcards have ASIO but DO NOT have Internal Routing. Without this is useless... I don't want anymore ASIO4ALL+VAC because is unprofessional and make only troubles...
    Oh, sorry, I did not know that they do not have internal routing.
    I think Reaper sequencer can do that with a virtual ASIO driver (ReaRoute)
    Why is that unprofessional?
    Anyway, you can still go with an USB or Firewire sound card too. (M-Audio FIREWIRE 410 for example)

    It's funny that you spending thousands of dollars on the sound system, hundreds on the
    PC upgrade instead of using linux and wine (I can run Igo8 with it), and trying to save money
    on the sound card.
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    Or you can buy an Alpine PXA-H701 with RUX-C701, and forgot
    PC-audio-mixing.
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    People have their preferences. I have been messaging _Dejan_ on a setup that would work for me, and in the end I decided to replace everything. People have certain expectations, but want to stay with something they know. At least _dejan_ doesn't have to go through what I have to. Not only do I have to replace the MoBo, Processor, but I also have to replace the soundcard, buy a serial to USB converter, buy a new DVD ROM, and change some wiring. I guess its safe to say that I am a perfectionist, even though I know there is no such thing as perfect, and I think _dejan_ is the same way. I just want to get as close as possible, even if it means spending alot more money. i want to evetually bring my cars to shows, so its very important to me.
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