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    The parking brake must be on in order to get to step 3. The system must see a negative signal from the parking break switch. If you get to this point and try to get out of the vehicle with it running and in gear it is going to stall. This will cancel the ability to remote start until you reset it. The fact that the remote start will not function if the alarm has been tripped eliminates the chance that someone could get in to the vehicle and put it in gear.


    I'd say there are more failsafes with this setup than on a remote start for an automatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txspazz View Post
    The parking brake must be on in order to get to step 3. The system must see a negative signal from the parking break switch. If you get to this point and try to get out of the vehicle with it running and in gear it is going to stall. This will cancel the ability to remote start until you reset it. The fact that the remote start will not function if the alarm has been tripped eliminates the chance that someone could get in to the vehicle and put it in gear.


    I'd say there are more failsafes with this setup than on a remote start for an automatic.
    This Clifford Matrix 20.7X looks pretty awesome. The manual isn't online at cliffords website though. I'm guessing I can't program it via the computer like the G4/5's, but not that big a deal. It states a "manual transmission mode", and is just a remote starting unit. There's an alarm system(OEM) that comes with my flavor of mustang from that year already has a passive system with vibration and the like, so really don't need the extra alarm features of the G4 and 5. So long as this can tap into the existing OEM for whatever the trigger-line might be, it should be good, I'm not sure if this will clone my existing remotes correctly, and such.
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    The park brake switch circuit should be easy to bypass - especially if it's a simple oldskool grounding switch.

    If CANned etc, maybe a short across the switch itself - unless sophisticated 2-way or impedance sensitive or optic/magnetic etc switching is used.

    Else a mechanical solution, though that probably means moving the switch further away from the mechanism because it is held "off" with handbrake in/down and is "handbrake on" when the handbrake releases it.


    FYI - many Jap gearboxes have neutral sensors. Thee were added from the late 1970s for pollution reasons. (Hence 2 look-like switches; one is reverse, one for neutral - but one is NO the other NC.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by txspazz View Post
    The parking brake must be on in order to get to step 3. The system must see a negative signal from the parking break switch. If you get to this point and try to get out of the vehicle with it running and in gear it is going to stall. This will cancel the ability to remote start until you reset it. The fact that the remote start will not function if the alarm has been tripped eliminates the chance that someone could get in to the vehicle and put it in gear.


    I'd say there are more failsafes with this setup than on a remote start for an automatic.
    I had remote start in my standard tranny Honda. The whole point of the process 1-5 by listed by Wayne above is failsafe in itself. If you do NOT follow the procedure, you will not be able to remote start your vehicle after (in or out of gear). Because you have to set the e-brake, then "arm" the starter (which leaves the engine running), you cannot possibly get out of the car while it's in gear with the engine running. Then when you get out of the car you have to hit the button again so the engine stops and the doors lock (if so equipped).

    Hope that helps.

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