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    WTF. Another M10000 died on me

    Guys.. the car pc running last October died on me. it still powered up but there was no video or audio signal.

    I thought it was just a dying mobo, it was a second hand M10000.

    Over Christmas I got my hands on a brand new M10000 still in the box. I installed this and all was working fine. I was half way through a music video when it suddenly crashed. After restart the vga screen would power up and the fans on the modo fans powered up but there was no video signal again?

    WTF?

    In both cases the modo would still power up but no video sugnal. Like the video card had fried.

    What could poissbly cause this?

    I have a very basic setup. 10 awg from battery to red wire of M1-ATX, Stereo ACC to IGN wire on M1-ATX, earthed to chassis. 7" VGA touchscreen powered by yellow wire from mobo.

    Hope you guys can help. Thanks

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    I assume you've bench tested it with a standard power supply and both boards are still dead? What kind of automotive power supply do you have? Maybe there's a problem with that, like the crank protection has failed and too much power is getting through to the motherboard.

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    I have the M1-ATX. Which seems to still work, it still powers up the mobo.

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    Have you done a test with a standard power supply?

    Even though the M1 powers the motherboard, it might have caused a surge that fried the video. I don't know how to test it, though. Just an idea. Power surges can do funny things to hardware.

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    I did a little research on the M10000 and it looks like that motherboard has some issues. There are badly designed capacitors that apparently are prone to failure. Any chance you can return that new one for a refund, and then buy a different brand mini-itx board?

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    Also attach it to a crt monitor and watch the viedo. Not an LCD, not a dvi capable crt, but an old school 50lb monster. The glitch may have crashed the video drivers so your LCD doesn't recognize the signal. Then pull it inside and test with a normal setup.
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    1. Use known, good power supply from house current, not car battery.
    2. Connect to good monitor. I *think* it will still show post on an LCD VGA monitor even if the drivers are crashed.

    Visually check all capacitors on the board to ensure they are all cylindrical and show no signs of bulging or failure.
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    I've tested the unit indoors with my PC psu and still no luck. Checked all the chips and capacitors and they all look fine.

    Funny thing is the exact same thing happened on my old M10000 but this time on a brand new M10000. Both times it crashed while watching a movie clip.

    I thought there must have been others which this has happened to.

    What could be the problem.. do you think the M1-ATX is frying the mobo? is this common? can anyone link some similiar threads?

    Thanks

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    I don't think it's a common occurrence. I've never heard of it and I didn't come across any threads about that p/s frying motherboards. After reading about your motherboard I think it's more likely the motherboard just up and died on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kegobeer View Post
    I don't think it's a common occurrence. I've never heard of it and I didn't come across any threads about that p/s frying motherboards. After reading about your motherboard I think it's more likely the motherboard just up and died on you.
    Thats what I thought after the 1st M10000 died on me in October. I then acquired a Brand New M10000 and that also died on me halfway through watching a music video.

    I'm almost in tears about this. I've spent a lot of time and money doing all the research and wiring and the dam thing only popped on me after being installed for about an hour.

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    Luckily swapping the motherboard shouldn't cause you too much work. But I feel your pain.

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