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    Some more questions

    Guys good morning,

    I am here again with more questions.

    So lets start. i own a vw sharan ( probably you dont know the model as it didn't imported to us ) but that is only for the record. The car has a mfd mcd radio/navi/telephone unit. Coming to an end building my carpc i was wondering if i can use anything from my car installation.

    For example i was very impressed with the built Gps unit as it is one of the faster i ever met and it also shows me infos on the central panel between the tachometer and speedometer. So is it possible to attach the gps unit to the pc ? If so whould it be possible to extract and send the infos at the central panel again ?

    The other think is the amplifier. Can i use the one that is in the car or do i have to forget is and buy a new unit?

    I also has some bluetooth wifi and camera modules from old laptops. Is it possible to convert them in usb ( or any interface ) and use them on the car pc ?

    that is for now guys,
    Thanks in advance

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    Generally, to use OEM components in any aftermarket install, some kind of a translator is needed or if your really good, (like some of the guys around here.....not me!), you can write your own code to talk to the OEM devices. Vdubs are tricky enough just to install audio in (off-impedance speakers, accessing accessory power etc) I would suggest you check the usual suspects (PAC, Axxess, Metra, Scosche) to see who offers what for your VW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilG View Post
    .... you can write your own code to talk to the OEM devices....
    i wish i could...

    Quote Originally Posted by PhilG View Post
    ... I would suggest you check the usual suspects
    nice one. sorry guys couldn't find anything
    nice companies although i didn't understand if they do what i want or the opposite .
    anyways i ll try and send them some mail to figure out.

    Thanks mate for ur reply.

    ps your forum is awesome
    Last edited by Happy_Feet; 07-21-2013 at 10:18 AM.

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    There are a few devices out there on the net but I'm not finding much on this side of the world. Check out these links, maybe they'll help, I don't know exactly how you are stetting things up but these should give you an idea of some of the stuff available for the Sharan. I don't know the year of your van either so check that when you review these:

    http://www.ebay.fr/itm/VW-T5-MULTIVA...item2c6bf2118e

    http://www.ebay.fr/itm/DENSION-Gatew...item35c5b52f7e

    It appears Bluespot maybe more helpful for non US imported vehicles, have a look:

    http://www.bluespot.co.uk/car_radio_...rs.aspx?id=298


    Good luck, keep us posted on your progress!
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    Ok Guys second one now.

    I have ordered a board to convert a laptop monitor at a vga external one. So the thing now is to find a way to mount or to be more specific to hang the 15.4" monitor in the car.

    The first thought was to make a rail from aluminium between the car's front headrests and mount the monitor there. It is a good thought but i need to support the case of the laptop's panel to mount it there.

    So i am thinking is it possible to bond some aluminium frame on the case of the panel and after that everything is possible or do i have to take the hard road and build something to attach to the monitor's existing mechanism. Basically i dont know which one is safer for the monitor.
    So what do you think guys . Lite me up.....

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    I think this one will require some pics posted from you to get meaningful answers. Pics of the parts, where your trying to put them and what an idea of how you want it to look when your done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilG View Post
    I think this one will require some pics posted from you to get meaningful answers. Pics of the parts, where your trying to put them and what an idea of how you want it to look when your done.


    Ok guys ive done some work yesterday and this is the screen. As you ve notice i kept the laptop's casing around the panel.

    Tomorrow i ll post some more photos from the casing of the carpc and the car; but untill now let me try and describe the best way my thinking.

    I am a human been who is extremely oppsite to the word permanent. SO from the begging i knew that i wouldn't be able to buy enough monitors i started to search for a most flexible or to say it right a "movable" monitor.

    SO i ve thought that first of all all that i have to do is bond a mount on the monitor that will be able to support the weight plus the outer group of frorces that comes from the movement of the car.

    So a two component epoxy ( permatex or something) can bond an aluminium frame with some kind of male mount type for connect this somewhere.

    On the other hand i thought that hey you have already some mounting spots on the panel meaning the rotated ones that connect the screen with the main laptop.

    But these ones are pretty low on the laptop so normally ( without some more modification) the monitor will be placed on front og me rear view mirror.

    SO the bonding thing comes easier to me but io have my doupts concerning the case which is mnot designed to hold this small weight the way i am going to do . What do you think guys ?

    Tomorrow morning i ll try and post some more phots and infos guys .
    i am going for sleep now
    good day to you all.
    Pavlos

    ok that has been writen yesterday night but don't why it hasn't been posted. thank god it was on the memory of the site.

    So morning update:

    Case with fuzzy 945 and coreduo.



    I put the monitor on the scale and did get 999gr ( lighter than a kg ...). I also find a usefull page ( not as the ones that you have gave me ) that has all the specs from my monitor.

    http://www.panelook.com/LP154WX4-TLC...eter_5669.html

    And later on i ll post some photos with the inside of the car.

    second row middle seat down and you may have an idea what i was talikng about saying that i want to make a support rail ( or something) between the first row's headrests for the monitor to be hanged bassically on the top of the pc case which will be placed inbetween the two front seats lower than the armrests.

    sorry for the quality guys . here you can see how it looks from the third row seats the car.



    thats all i can say untill now guys.
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    If I understand you correctly, your plan is to set the wood computer case on the floor between the front seats and mount the laptop screen which is still in its plastic bezel to the box?

    It the above is correct, I'm sure you can come up with a way to mount the monitor but remember: if the box on the floor is not well attached to the floor, there will be movement of the box. If you then attached a monitor to that using it as a pedestal, the monitor screen will have movement as well. Combine the 2, and I think you will end up with a screen that shakes too much to look at when the vehicle is moving.
    If you fasten the box securely to the floor and add a full wood mounting surface to the box that allows at least 1/2 of the back of the monitor to adhere to it, I think you would have a chance of getting it stable.
    If my understanding of what you are trying to do is wrong, I apologize, we are back to square one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilG View Post
    If I understand you correctly, your plan is to set the wood computer case on the floor between the front seats and mount the laptop screen which is still in its plastic bezel to the box?
    that was a thought in the begging but

    Quote Originally Posted by PhilG View Post
    .... if the box on the floor is not well attached to the floor, there will be movement of the box. If you then attached a monitor to that using it as a pedestal, the monitor screen .... Combine the 2, and I think you will end up with a screen that shakes too much to look at .....
    You got me there. That was the reason that i avoided this plan. The case had to be mounted thing that i dont want . So you figured the place but not the way. The way is a rail between those steel bars that keeps the headrest and then on it the monitor. Though the seats are moveable i think it is pretty easy if you find a good way to mount somehting on the monitor. This way later on i could hang the monitor from one headrest only .

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    The monitor hanging off the headrest should be no issue to do, there is a million ways to do it, my first thought would be if you can invert the image from the PC, then turn the laptop monitor upside down, and use the the hinge area of it *** your main load carrying mount points then just some adhesive zip tie mounts (google image those if you don't know what I mean) on the back side near the bottom of the screen to stabilize.
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