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    win2k and m10000 audio

    Does win2k support 6 channel audio?

    I am using win2k and the onboard audio from the Epia M10000
    I am using Winamp 3 for music playback.

    I have the line-out (front speakers) and line-in (rear speakers) from the motherboard going to an amplifier and from the amp to the four car speakers.

    The problem is I can only hear music coming from the speakers connected to the line-out. If I connect the rears to the line-out, I hear music from the rear speakers.

    The line-in is usually just that, a line-in connection. To enable 6 channel sound, the manual reads:
    Step one in setting up Smart5.1 is to open the audio speaker control panel and select Smart5.1 Enable.

    The second step is to set the Speakers properties to 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers in Advanced Audio Properties Panel.
    This should cause the line-in to act as the rear speaker line-out...

    IT HAS NO EFFECT.

    Is it possible that win2k does not support this or have I done something wrong?
    Maybe winamp only outputs to 2 channels? I doubt that. Maybe I need to connect something to the Mic-In connection for it to recognize 6 channel? That is reserved for sub and center channel (which I don't have).

    I could connect all four speakers to the two front channels from line-out, but I would rather do it right...

    Any suggestions? Do I need to get WinXP or get a real sound card? The sound from onboard is good enough for me, so I don't want to get a sound card. If XP is neccessary, that's not a problem, I can get it for $5 at school

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    Try uninstalling and re-installing the drivers again. Maybe you're only hear 2-channel because the movie or mp3 is in 2-channel...

    If you're using an epia with the phono output, there is another alternative. This method frees the line-out and line-in and uses the phono jack, but it's costlier because you need a digital signal processor:

    http://www.mini-itx.com/hardware/ac3/

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    Maybe this has already been covered in the past, but when I was playing with my M10000 I noticed that the rear speakers and center delivered audio at a MUCH lower level than the fronts. I just assumed this was normal and went about just using the two fronts for the time being (too lazy to build a line level amp, too cheap to buy one). I suggest checking for ANY audio coming out of the rears, if there is some, a line level amp should do you nicely. Anybody else notice the level difference, or am I just crazy?

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    Ok here's an update.

    Thinking about what Jackso (thanks) said...

    I turned the gain on the amp all the way up and the rear channel PC volume all the way up and I could just barely make out the music with some background hiss. What the hell is that? Is that normal?

    Even with the gain all the way down on the fronts and the front volume low on the PC I can still hear the music louder than the rears all the way up.

    I know rear surround speakers are supposed to be a little quiet, but that's rediculous(sp). Is there a way to get 4 channel sound, but non-surround?

    Could it be a problem with the motherboard or is this normal? This kinda sucks 'cause I don't really want to buy a sound card... I would have to re-build the entire setup to alllow for a sound card or even an external sound device like extigy or audigy (do they need external power?).

    Advice please...

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    From playing around with it on my m-10000 I have never got the 5.1 audio to correctly work either. It works great for two channel sound but there doesn't appear to be any way to "upmix" two channel content to front+rear+sub.

    Like you, I am about to purchase an Audigy II and use it.





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    Do you have this driver in your sound properties?

    VIA AC'97 enhanced audio controller (WDM)

    And have that selected as playback preferred device?
    (I don't have 5.1 speakers, so I don't use that function)

    Have you looked here ?

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    The M10000 really IS supposed to "upmix" 2 channel audio. That is their "magic" whatever they called it. Something about the boards ability to half ways convert 2 channel audio into surround sound. Mind you I think it's the old crappy surrond system, but still you would be getting audio from the rears. I really think it's just a design flaw, but I havn't looked on their forums much yet. I dunno how electonically savy you are but you could try either building (LM741 op-amp would work nicely) or purchasing a line level amp. They're usually used when splitting line level audio to many devices to keep levels good. Just a thought.
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    prometheusg ... have you made any further progress with this? I've just started messing with this here on my desk and i'm experiencing the same problems.

    I've found if i look at the properties in the volume window, there's a whole number of surround based volumes available, each having their own options ... i'm still having no luck tho.

    i'm going to go get the latest driver in a minute here ...
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    If anybody does find the solutions please be sure to share. Before I put my computer into the car I fiddled with it for about a month and couldn't get it to work. Gave up as i was eager to install. Now that it's installed i don't like removing it (it's a pain in the arse) but if a solution were found by somebody without such pains, the pain would be worth the extra 4 channels.
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    i've done more reading and haven't found any other ways aroudn it. i updated my drivers and no help.

    from what I can tell everyone is either just using the single output from the m10000, use a Extigy, or an eq.

    while I'd love to have an EQ (i'm a sound nut) i don't have any room
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