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    Quote Originally Posted by rafaelsherman
    Could you post a web site for this battery? I googled for it, and every site that mentioned it was down/blocked/in chinese.

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    How did your google give you that? Just search for "Optima Yellow Top"!

    But ok, here's a link: http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/OPTD750U

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    i think the whole point about friends weighing +/- 5 lbs is that it's very likely that someone who shouldn't be driving your car could quite possibly weigh +/- 5 lbs as well. who cares what your friends weigh...my friends wouldn't be driving my car without having asked me for the keys first anyway...unless they were playing a joke...which has happened.

    anyway, on the speaker for tail-riders...
    i have this PA thing in my car that i got from pep boys for 40 bucks...it has various kid songs, animal noises, a mic, and sirens. one night i was driving on the interstate and some jerk was tailing me hard, so i switched lanes, let him speed past, and then i got behind him and cut on the siren that sounded like a cop's siren. well, then he switched lanes, slowed down, and cut the interior lights on to show me his badge; it was an off-duty cop in his personal vehicle. the moral of the story is, you never know who's behind you so you have to be careful.

    on a more serious, general note, i would advocate against anything built into the car that uses the computer to mess with other drivers in any way. for one thing, it's just kinda stooping to someone else's level to "get them back." i think what happened to me is funny, but i just don't do stuff like that anymore because it exacerbates road rage, both in me and other drivers, and if everyone was driving offensively instead of defensively, the roads wouldn't be safe for anyone.

    also, to incorporate the carputer into the execution of such fruitless revenge tactics reduces the legitimacy of the carputer itself, in my opinion. what i'm saying is, i think we're all researching and developing a useful and soon to be necessary tool, and while "cool" is always top priority, we shouldn't get caught up trying to implement anything that doesn't really benefit us...and other than releasing a little anger, where does yelling at the guy behind you get you?

    that's just my $0.02...and on that note, it's your car and you can try out whatever you want on it.

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    Great, finally some good replies. On this board it seems like alot of people tear your ideas down if they havent already thought of them thereself. Even if your ideas are good AND work.
    But they don't, god damn lazy bastards!
    Just proved my point. Im sorry, but people like this just make the carputer world develope so much slower. All they do is try to STOP people from developing new ideas, and there are so many people just like him here. For every new idea--that would work, there are probably 10's of bad comments telling the person it wouldnt, even if the idea is good.

    The headlight thing was done 40-50 years ago by Citroen. They worked this from the steering of the wheels. I think this was a linkage from the steering rack somewhere. It was very effective. This is the simplest in terms of technology and does not need all the complicated speed/corner calculations as you may think. Normally for high speed driving your standard headlamps are enough to light your way. It's on the tight cornering a lower speeds where the headlamp turning works best and this is why they connected the linkage to the steering system.

    A number of companies are now providing smart cards with the cars so that the car will automatically unlock when you approach the car to get it. All you then do is press a button on the dash to start the engine and drive off. If you don't have your smart card you can't get in and you can't start the engine. The thing that always makes me smile about this is my natural curiosity of wether the car really did lock itself when I walk away from the car. Like you walk away and the car locks, you wonder if it did lock so you walk back to check it. Of course when you walk back the car unlocks. It's a little bit like that little light in the refridgerator

    But they do do it and it works great. The smart card just needs to be near the car to work. I think Renault and Nissan do this stuff.
    Thanks for the info. . I already knew it would work since the turning headlights were in newer cars i just wanted to see what everyone else thought about it, and maybe if us homebrewers could implement it. The smart card idea sounds pretty useful, we should start making these for carputer's. So when you walk to your car and get within a certain distance the pc starts, so by the time youre in the your car its already on, and waiting to start some music/gps/gaming. I not sure how to make this tho. Maybe your car gives off some kind of IR heart beat to the reciever in your pocket, and once there is a connection made the car says 'hey, its jay, its time to turn on A B C ect.' Then when the connection is severed it turns everything off.


    The Torpedo actually had a third headlight, mounted right in the centre that turned with the wheels (I think it had some sort of gearing).
    This sounds very easy and probably effective, but the only thing is that it would be extremely ugly . just imagine my car (00 accord 2.5 drop tint ect) with a third light in the middle, people would laugh at me!

    The BMW system for swivelling headlights actually shines light on to a swivelling 2x2cm mirror, which is made up from thousands of 'mirror pixels'. These can shine light in whatever pattern you want, so using GPS data etc. they can mark the edges of the road for you, show warnings, illuminate pedestrians, all sorts of crazy stuff apparently
    This might actually be the safest way to do it, because if something does go out then you still have your original headlights shining forward, and you could see everything still. Im still not sure if i would or could make this, but it sounds like a aftermarket mod that can be installed.

    And i dont smoke BTW, im not sure who started that, but its totally false.

    Edit: this dude posted while i was typing this one up..

    think the whole point about friends weighing +/- 5 lbs is that it's very likely that someone who shouldn't be driving your car could quite possibly weigh +/- 5 lbs as well. who cares what your friends weigh...my friends wouldn't be driving my car without having asked me for the keys first anyway...unless they were playing a joke...which has happened.
    again, im PRETTY sure it wouldnt happen...im positive, since like i said, very few people that i know are within 5lbs of each other, matter of fact, none of them are. So that just brings the chance of a stranger being 5lbs of me a little bit lower. Since most people that steal cars are teens/small or whatnot, and im not a teen, or very small...i would love to see a 235-245lb guy stealing a car. But even in the case that, that did happen we still have the hieght to verify the person's identity. You dont have to measure the person's whole body, all you would have to do is measure a part. Say like the distance between there eyes, or the length of there nose or whatnot.

    on a more serious, general note, i would advocate against anything built into the car that uses the computer to mess with other drivers in any way. for one thing, it's just kinda stooping to someone else's level to "get them back." i think what happened to me is funny, but i just don't do stuff like that anymore because it exacerbates road rage, both in me and other drivers, and if everyone was driving offensively instead of defensively, the roads wouldn't be safe for anyone.

    also, to incorporate the carputer into the execution of such fruitless revenge tactics reduces the legitimacy of the carputer itself, in my opinion. what i'm saying is, i think we're all researching and developing a useful and soon to be necessary tool, and while "cool" is always top priority, we shouldn't get caught up trying to implement anything that doesn't really benefit us...and other than releasing a little anger, where does yelling at the guy behind you get you?

    that's just my $0.02...and on that note, it's your car and you can try out whatever you want on it.
    I totally disagree. First of all, you dont have to yell at them, and i even added that you could talk to them nicely. All you need to do is get your point accross. Telling them to back up, or please drive slower is alot more safe then brake checking people--which a lot of people do in california. Also its not 'fruitless revenge' at all, its not even revenge. I see it as getting the person off your back the safest way possible. Youre not shining a blinding light in there face (ive seen that, the dude from cribs had one in his truck) and your certainly not 'driving offensively' when you do it either. And as far as 'reducing the legitimacy of the carputer' go, thats just plain bs. Who can tell what should or shouldnt be on a carputer? no one, its up to the person that installs these devices to make the call, and this call is a safe one--its the most non-intrusive way i could think of at least.

    One last edit to this long long post:
    well, then he switched lanes, slowed down, and cut the interior lights on to show me his badge; it was an off-duty cop in his personal vehicle.
    You think that was bad, read what i did http://honda-acura.net/forums/showthread.php?t=130150

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbrubb
    Just proved my point. Im sorry, but people like this just make the carputer world develope so much slower. All they do is try to STOP people from developing new ideas, and there are so many people just like him here. For every new idea--that would work, there are probably 10's of bad comments telling the person it wouldnt, even if the idea is good.
    What the HELL are you talking about?


    Superduck: I like your idea of using the driving lights. Those are small, and can easily be mounted to a servo assembly. And it wouldn't matter if they're not too accurate since your main headlights are still pointed forward. That is actually implementable, and the code for a microcontroller to do that would be very simple to write.

    I'm adding that to my programing task list for my microcontroller.


    Quote Originally Posted by bubbrubb
    The smart card idea sounds pretty useful, we should start making these for carputer's. So when you walk to your car and get within a certain distance the pc starts, so by the time youre in the your car its already on, and waiting to start some music/gps/gaming. I not sure how to make this tho. Maybe your car gives off some kind of IR heart beat to the reciever in your pocket, and once there is a connection made the car says 'hey, its jay, its time to turn on A B C ect.' Then when the connection is severed it turns everything off.
    RFID Help!


    Quote Originally Posted by bubbrubb
    And i dont smoke BTW, im not sure who started that, but its totally false.
    Easy there... why are you getting so defensive if it's not true?


    Quote Originally Posted by bubbrubb
    i would love to see a 235-245lb guy stealing a car. But even in the case that, that did happen we still have the hieght to verify the person's identity. You dont have to measure the person's whole body, all you would have to do is measure a part. Say like the distance between there eyes, or the length of there nose or whatnot.
    You never know what type of guy would try to steal your car. As for IDing height, how would you do that? And to measure body proportions would mean image recognition on a level a lot more complex than mere fingerprints.


    Quote Originally Posted by bubbrubb
    I totally disagree. First of all, you dont have to yell at them, and i even added that you could talk to them nicely. All you need to do is get your point accross. Telling them to back up, or please drive slower is alot more safe then brake checking people--which a lot of people do in california.
    Can you picture that? You're driving along being an ***, tailing someone, and suddenly you hear outa nowhere "Um.. excuse me, can you please back up a bit?"

    I don't know about anyone else, but I'd totally freak out.


    Quote Originally Posted by bubbrubb
    Also its not 'fruitless revenge' at all, its not even revenge.
    Agreed. No revenge is fruitless.



    skippuff54: Did he do anything to you? Ticket, yell, or just flashed his badge to show you who you're messing with?

    There was an article in the paper a few weeks back about some guy that bought a red visor light and was pulling people over and giving them tickets. Then he pulled over an off-duty cop, and got arrested.


    And yah man, I've done stuff like that. I'm an EMT, so I have actual lights/siren on my car. One time some guy cut me off, so I "pulled him over" and in my PA system told him to "exit the vehicle, put your hands on the hood, and wait until another car arrives to deal with you" and then we drove off. It was hilarious, but I wouldn't do it again. That is impersonating an officer AND abuse of privilege... a big no-no.

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    What the HELL are you talking about?
    Im talkin about you, and the way you cut peoples ideas down just because you can. Most of your comments were bad, and discouraging me from trying my ideas. You tried to crap on my ideas from the first reply you posted.

    Originally Posted by bubbrubb
    And i dont smoke BTW, im not sure who started that, but its totally false.


    Easy there... why are you getting so defensive if it's not true?
    Im not, its the first time i said i didnt smoke, i never brought up smoking, and im not sure how smoking even got twisted up in the whole thing. All i was doing was making it clear to everyone that i dont smoke

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbrubb
    Im talkin about you, and the way you cut peoples ideas down just because you can. Most of your comments were bad, and discouraging me from trying my ideas. You tried to crap on my ideas from the first reply you posted.
    Ok, let's take a look at this:


    "The BMW system for swivelling headlights actually shines light on to a swivelling 2x2cm mirror, which is made up from thousands of 'mirror pixels'. These can shine light in whatever pattern you want, so using GPS data etc. they can mark the edges of the road for you, show warnings, illuminate pedestrians, all sorts of crazy stuff apparently."

    But they don't, god damn lazy bastards!

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    Now, where in that post and my reply are you or anyone's idea mentioned at all? He said that the BMW lights had the ability to do this and that. And I commented on how they don't because they're god damn lazy bastards.

    Fine, I will apologize to the lights. "I am sorry, BMW headlights, that although you can do a lot of awesome stuff you are lazy and do not."

    There, are we happy now? Good.


    Im not, its the first time i said i didnt smoke, i never brought up smoking, and im not sure how smoking even got twisted up in the whole thing. All i was doing was making it clear to everyone that i dont smoke
    Riiiiiight.. of course you don't.

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    And I didn't discourage your ideas. I discouraged the approach you described by pointing out the flaws.

    As you can see, as soon as someone mentioned something that is workable (using additional driving lights instead of the headlights), I agreed that it was a good idea.... and am now working out plans on how to integrate that into a working system.

    So take some joy knowing that your post as already produced some positive results. It doesn't matter if I shot down some of your ideas.. what matters is that your ideas give other people ideas which eventually might lead to something that will benefit someone.

    I don't want to discourage you from posting your ideas or views, but I won't sit by and not comment on what I see as obvious flaws. At the same time, I'll compliment something that I see as a good workable idea.

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    What a strange conversation

    I think the BMW lights I saw were part of some advanced concepts programme, along with the self parking X5 and holographic displays

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    And I didn't discourage your ideas. I discouraged the approach you described by pointing out the flaws.

    As you can see, as soon as someone mentioned something that is workable (using additional driving lights instead of the headlights), I agreed that it was a good idea.... and am now working out plans on how to integrate that into a working system.

    So take some joy knowing that your post as already produced some positive results. It doesn't matter if I shot down some of your ideas.. what matters is that your ideas give other people ideas which eventually might lead to something that will benefit someone.

    I don't want to discourage you from posting your ideas or views, but I won't sit by and not comment on what I see as obvious flaws. At the same time, I'll compliment something that I see as a good workable idea.
    Uhh, no, that is complete BS. look at the first 2 pages of replies from you, almost all of them are discouraging my ideas. Also, my idea for the headlights DO work, im not the one that brought up BMW. Someone else did, Im the one that brought up CADILAC since thats what they do, and have done for the past year.

    Now, where in that post and my reply are you or anyone's idea mentioned at all? He said that the BMW lights had the ability to do this and that. And I commented on how they don't because they're god damn lazy bastards.

    Fine, I will apologize to the lights. "I am sorry, BMW headlights, that although you can do a lot of awesome stuff you are lazy and do not."

    There, are we happy now? Good.
    Read the first two pages of replies from you. And like i said, people like you slow down development of good ideas, because you just shoot everyones ideas down if you havent thought of them first--people like you shouldnt even reply, because most of your input is negative.

    So are we good? no, because of how you come in a crap on my ideas with the BS that you come up with. I actually research my ****, to see if it would or wouldnt work, you just come in a say 'oh it wont work because of this, i have no facts or data, but what i think is right, and it wont work' Blah.


    Edit: Also going back to a earlier Post Banderon said that having the pc on will drain the battery, and
    your car would become like a pet
    .Well that wouldnt happen, by the info from the page you posted, a person "had my 800Watt system running for 2 hours straight" and nothing happened to his car. So lets do a lil math. The computer would continusly drain 2.5watts from the battery. 800watts x 120 minutes divided by 2.5 watts would equal 38400 minutes. 34800 minutes divided by 60 would be 640 hours. 640 hours divided by 24 be 26.6 days....now im not sure how long you spend the night at your friends house, but 26.6 days is a long time to be with anyone--even my girlfriend

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    More ideas.

    Well i had more ideas, but the thread got way off topic, and i wasnt able to share the rest of them with you guys. Since these are mostly cosmetic ideas, i wanted to keep them seperate from the ones that can actually improve our cars safety performance.

    Well, first one is sort of strange, but i think it would be pretty cool to see done. I was thinking of a special random music generator. But instead of it being completely random, i wanted it to generate music based on certain parameters. Like time of day, weather, atmosphere of the people in the car, sex of people in car, alone, with group, things like that. Like a emotion music generator, instead of just randomness. For this to work everytime you listen to a song, you would have to input certain parameters in it. And since this would be in the car, i thought it would be hard to actually input numbers or comments, so i was thinking of colors for correspounding emotions. Like a range of Blue for sad/slow/moody music and Reds for the opposite happy/fast/upbeat. Then you would choose shades of black for night time music and Yellows for a noon type music, and Orange shades for morning. Then there would just be icons to click on for weather/alone/friends whatnot. Im making a visual layout for this, so you can see what i mean with an actual picture, because its very difficult to try to explain this one in words. Ill upload it by tomorrow.

    Next is what i saw on 'pimp my ride', and it looked really simple and cost effective. They had seats with motors in them that massaged the driver/passenger seats! Im scared of massacuring my seats and installing those motors in them, but if someone wants to help me with the know-how i will go ahead and bite the bullets and try it.

    And lastly an idea thats kinda wierd, but not off the wall-- Uber-car sent. What i was thinking about was installing something inbetween the vents and the AC that would shoot certain sents in the car that are triggered by different events. So if you choose that the day is sunny or whatnot, it sprays out a flowery sent for the first 1-2mins youre in the car, and every 20mins or whatnot, so the car smells 'sunny' or whatever corresponds to that time/feel of day. It would probably hard to actually get only one sent coming for the vents at once. (if you had 10 or however many sents, there might be sent bleeding going on) So im not sure how this could be done with 100% accuracy, but im pretty sure if i thought about it more thoroughly i could come up with something. Also, i was thinking about hooking this up somehow to the back of the car..maybe the same idea with the AC but just use very low powered fans (something that would be silent, or close to it) And it would of course be invisable to people that didnt know it was there, like underneath the speaker covers or the corver of the car, flush with the back windshield.

    I think these ideas are strange by themselves, but if they were working together, it would make a very different feeling invironment inside the car for everyone.

    Edit: i have more ideas, but they are starting to get crazy! ill share some more later (cant give away everything)

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