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    Quote Originally Posted by Banderon
    Didn't you get that the guy's amp, if it was using the full 800 watts, would have drained his battery completely? Your car would not last 26.6 days.
    Sorry, i dont trust anything you say. But even IF it were true, and my carpc would last 1/8 of that, it would still be long enough to stay on continuously without killing my battery. And it would be charged by the time i drove to school, and work, and back home.

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    It's a shame when good threads get bogged down in arguments (not the constructive type). This is a very interesting brainstorming otherwise. That's how a lot of great ideas happen. Ideas bounce around and get refined as they bounce.

    Just a couple of my opinions (again).

    Re: the cornering lights. In talking about lights that permanently face the side, I mentioned in my previous post that several cars use these, but they're on with the turn signals, which we've decided isn't much help. I've been thinking about my off-the-top idea of the mercury switches. They're those glass cylinders with mercury in them. As soon as you tip them over, they make contact and flip a switch. They'd be very low-tech but quite effective if you wanted to mount a driving light facing off to each side. Rather than having to manually turn them on, just 'arm' them, then let the mercury switches turn them off and on. As soon as you get a preset amount of lateral G's, (depending on the angle you mount the switches) the relevant light turns on. Perhaps you'd need a capacitor or some other electronics to keep them on for an extra second or two. Also, if you angle the switches back a bit, they'd react more at higher forward G's too. So, a slightly less sharp corner, but at higher rate of acceleration, will trigger them too. That would be a perfect solution, the lights are only on as long as you need them to be, and they react to every corner that requires them.

    Regarding the remote trigger, I've got a pager alarm with remote start. I find the remote start most useful because I'm currently running a first-gen Sony Xplod MP3 deck, which takes about 15-20 seconds to start playing every time I start up. So, I hit the remote start as I'm heading towards the car, and by the time I open the door and sit down, the music has started. Also, It's got trunk release, as well as a couple of auxiliary outputs. When I get my actual carputer done, I'll be able to remote turn on and off the computer independant of the car, as the remote has a latching output.

    Since I'm so used to having complete control via remote, the idea of walking near the car to make it start or unlock the door bothers me. Besides, sometimes at my work, I walk right past my car, so I wouldn't want it to do anything. I prefer a remote keypad myself. I suppose the passive system may work well for some, I'm just a bit of a control freak. I don't enable passive arming of my alarm either.

    All in all, like I said, this has been a very informative session, with a lot of constructive criticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superduck
    It's a shame when good threads get bogged down in arguments (not the constructive type). This is a very interesting brainstorming otherwise. That's how a lot of great ideas happen. Ideas bounce around and get refined as they bounce.
    This is just our method of generating new ideas. We criticize each other and drive each other insane... it stimulates the mind.


    The mercury switches could be used to turn the lights on/off when you've got a strong lateral motion going... good point. Just don't get into a car accident... mercury is not something you wanna be near if it's not contained.


    Regarding the remote trigger, I've got a pager alarm with remote start. I find the remote start most useful because I'm currently running a first-gen Sony Xplod MP3 deck, which takes about 15-20 seconds to start playing every time I start up. So, I hit the remote start as I'm heading towards the car, and by the time I open the door and sit down, the music has started. Also, It's got trunk release, as well as a couple of auxiliary outputs. When I get my actual carputer done, I'll be able to remote turn on and off the computer independant of the car, as the remote has a latching output.

    Since I'm so used to having complete control via remote, the idea of walking near the car to make it start or unlock the door bothers me. Besides, sometimes at my work, I walk right past my car, so I wouldn't want it to do anything. I prefer a remote keypad myself. I suppose the passive system may work well for some, I'm just a bit of a control freak. I don't enable passive arming of my alarm either.
    Yeah, that's exactly what I mean about the remote. As for keypad entry, my Grand Marquis has it.. and I honestly can't imagine not having it. If I ever get a car that doesn't, I'm installing it myself if I have to.

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    I finally finished reading all of these posts. Probably one of the funniest threads I have read in awhile. I'm sorry but I would have to agree with Banderon on most of this. You have some cool ideas and yes most of them are possible but not really plausible. Just a few comments:

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbrubb
    Third, which kinda adds/replaces the whole security thing. Other ways of I.D.ing the owner of the car is actually him/her. Well, if you didnt want to implement something like a finger scanning system (i would think it would be kind of hard to code something like that) you could use different means of I.D.ing yourself. Like say, by weight or height. I would think the wieght would be the easiest to code, put some sort of wieght measuring device inside the seat, under the cussion (so no one could feel it underneath them) and preprogram a set of parameters that would be close to your wieght. Im not sure what the correct term is, but i would make some sort of soft set of instructions. Something that would know exactly how much you weigh, then it would allow 2lb's above or below that actual wiegh, just incase you have heavy things in your pockets or whatnot. Also, it would wiegh you each time dynamically learn how much you wiegh, so overtime if dont rapidly gain or lose weight, it would start your car without being reprogramed.
    Ever heard of the Pigeon Hole Principle (Look it up)? You have your car in a parking lot with 100 others. Your car detects your weight within 2 to 5 pounds. Most people weigh probably between 100 to 300 pounds, I would assume (give or take a few ). Divide those 200 pounds into 2-5. That gives you 100-40 different possibilities among those 100 cars. Those are pretty good odds for a car thief. That means that if your car is sitting in a parking lot it is guaranteed that someone else in the parking lot will be able to start your car. That is giving you the benefit of the doubt too. Not a chance I would want to take.

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbrubb
    Fourth is for all those people that ride your *** when youre on the road. I was thinking about installing a--think its called hyper sonic speaker, behind my license plate. It would be hooked up to a microphone in my car somewhere, and at the press of a button it would flip up the plate revealing a speaker in which you could talk to the person behind you. This way other people couldnt hear you yelling, or speaking nicely, to the person behind you. Also, it wouldnt be dangerous as brake checking them, and it would get your point accross a lot clearer then that.
    Ya, that is a real good way to get someone to kick your A**.

    As for the positive. I like your last idea on the first page. Something I would like to see for my main screen. Hiding my screen is something that I have always thought about. I would definitely want this so that someone my same weight would be less inclined to steal my car
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbrubb
    True, on both accounts, i never said it was going to be hands free, and cops do use a handset to talk threw the microphone. But im certain that there are places that you could put the microphone that could make it handsfree and very clear.
    Facts? Data? Dont think the rest of us havent tried this. I personally have tried using positional microphones to talk to another car in a convoy, using wifi networking and voice software. Yes sure you can hear the other guy, but you have to try real hard to speak and to listen. THe only way to get a clear signal was by fixing a microphone on your collar, but its not practical to have a wired earphone/microphone while driving. Have not tried with a bluetooth headset and making the PC act like a voice gateway though.


    Oh im read, and interpret your statements. And think its you that needs to slow down and read/interpret what i posted. I never said you said that it wouldnt work, did i?
    Then what does this mean:

    Wow, you have to bring up the most extreme situation possible to say this idea wouldnt work
    No. I gave examples of the tech supporting my agruments that it would work. Like i said, ive been coming up with facts and data
    This is what I'd like to see.

    Also, im in america, people here a very different in terms of body weight/height, no one i know is 5lbs of each other.
    When I took my degree there, over 50% of the class was within 5lbs of me.

    Facts/data? none, who knows what happened when you tried it, who knows if it was in beta or some non-supported test phaze, who knows what circumstances the hardware/software running it was in. Who knows? All I know is this tech is out and working very well in america, must be some east asian hardware that doesnt work or something.
    Considering most of the technology the United States are using originated from the East, I find that mockery a fiction to be laughed at. Where is YOUR data? I provided real life experiences over the course of the last 6 months, and they werent test phase units.

    Please change your mindset. I'm not shooting down your ideas. I think most of them a great, although not practical but could be viable if you change your mindset towards solving these problems instead of thinking they arent problems in the first place. If I didnt think it could become a problem, I would not have wasted my time typing this post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbrubb
    So thats it, all youre points were ...pointless, please research before you come in with comments that cleary arent correct.

    despite the interesting ideas.....you're still a dick. and you dont need to be. part of brainstorming is criticizm. if you cant deal with it, get the f*** out of here, because thats what this forum is all about - building ideas. part of which means tearing down the impracticle/undoable/stupid parts of ideas. Thats just my $ .02. I liked some of your ideas - sqivel HL would be awesome, and the screen in dash sounds like it would be money.

    btw, please dont cry about how i am shooting you down - im jsut trying to give you some perspective about how I think forums like this, and the posts therein should be regarded.

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    LOL.... I love this thread!

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    despite the interesting ideas.....you're still a dick. and you dont need to be. part of brainstorming is criticizm. if you cant deal with it, get the f*** out of here, because thats what this forum is all about - building ideas. part of which means tearing down the impracticle/undoable/stupid parts of ideas. Thats just my $ .02. I liked some of your ideas - sqivel HL would be awesome, and the screen in dash sounds like it would be money.

    btw, please dont cry about how i am shooting you down - im jsut trying to give you some perspective about how I think forums like this, and the posts therein should be regarded.
    hah, he called me a dick, who calls people dicks? Surely adults dont speak this way, so im going to assume youre a kid, and well, we all know kids arent worth anything. So im going to skip this one up, and go on to the east asian guy.


    When I took my degree there, over 50% of the class was within 5lbs of me.
    'Took your degree' aye? okay, that is just pure BS to say 50% of your class is within 5lbs of you. Im in college right now, and i know for a FACT that 50% of the people there arent within 5lbs of me. Nor my friends, nor my family, nor my families friends or families.... But even if i gave you the benefit of the doubt here, there was also backup security measures that i was trying to implement too. I was just saying that this one sounded easy, and would work--and i still believe it will. BUT, if you guys say it wont work, you can still compound this security feature with the others i mentioned above, which would merge into one security program. Like wieght would be part of the password or security program 230lb (what i wiegh) + lets say, atleast 60% of identifiable print scan = car on, or whatever. Now it would be VERY hard for someone to fake your weight & fingerprints. But i mean, there is probably some EXTREME situation that youre going to bring up, that would only happen if hellboy came over and had captin crunch cereal with me on a sunday morning after church....

    Considering most of the technology the United States are using originated from the East, I find that mockery a fiction to be laughed at. Where is YOUR data? I provided real life experiences over the course of the last 6 months, and they werent test phase units.
    Pfft-shut that **** up. What are we talking about using right now? computers. Whats on 80% of computers in the world? Microsoft. Where is Microsoft located? Seattle USA.
    And your 'real world experiences' can be bs, like i said, who knows what situation you used whatever hardware (since you didnt give names, models, or anything that i could go pick up and see if youre bsing about it) was under.

    Quote Originally Posted by brady
    Ya, that is a real good way to get someone to kick your A**.
    Hah, im not afraid of some loser trying to kick my ***....but if they had a gun or something, believe imma get back in my car and smash the gas!

    Re: the cornering lights. In talking about lights that permanently face the side, I mentioned in my previous post that several cars use these, but they're on with the turn signals, which we've decided isn't much help. I've been thinking about my off-the-top idea of the mercury switches. They're those glass cylinders with mercury in them. As soon as you tip them over, they make contact and flip a switch. They'd be very low-tech but quite effective if you wanted to mount a driving light facing off to each side. Rather than having to manually turn them on, just 'arm' them, then let the mercury switches turn them off and on. As soon as you get a preset amount of lateral G's, (depending on the angle you mount the switches) the relevant light turns on. Perhaps you'd need a capacitor or some other electronics to keep them on for an extra second or two. Also, if you angle the switches back a bit, they'd react more at higher forward G's too. So, a slightly less sharp corner, but at higher rate of acceleration, will trigger them too. That would be a perfect solution, the lights are only on as long as you need them to be, and they react to every corner that requires them.
    Whoa, thats a great solution, but im still not sure how well it would work in my car. See, i have eibach sportline springs on my car, and am in the market for rear sway bars. So im not sure if i will produce enough G's in one direction to effectly use it without making really hard turns. but still, that is a great solution, and i honestly never even thought about something like that.

    oh and as for the remote start thing, i have a clifford alarm, and i know remote start is a addon package for it. I just didnt want to get it installed because i have a 5sp manual car, and im scared of burning my clutch out from having it in first gear and starting it. But, i still have 4 or 5 (cant remeber exactly how many) Aux inputs left for anything i want hooked up to my alarm. So i could have the carputer hooked up to one of them, and turn it on with the alarm keychain.

    Quote Originally Posted by brady
    As for the positive. I like your last idea on the first page. Something I would like to see for my main screen. Hiding my screen is something that I have always thought about. I would definitely want this so that someone my same weight would be less inclined to steal my car
    thank you, appreciate your praise! im glad to see someone here likes me!

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    LOL... I've said it before, I'll say it again. I love this thread!

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    Know how they say some dogs look like their owners? I can totally see Banderon at home hopping around like his avatar.....rotflmao

    Great thread, I just dont have the energy to want to get involved, just to get shot down.
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