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    Engine Control

    Anyone have any comments on this?

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    They are a very complex system designed for tunning the car for max tunning of the car. I've read of others spending $100's of dollars to set them up properly

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    I'm pretty sure that it can be done for less, and notice the cars on the list acura integra, honda civic/del sol... they're just price gouging to rape the average ricer out of his money. keep looking

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    I saw something on TechTV, hmm maybe regular news, about a company that hacked the honda's ECU to change timing values and such. Anyhow, I think it wasn't nearly that expensive, and it was a reputable company. Now if I could only remember what they're name was...
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    15 HUNDO!!! Damn that's alot of money for a few extra horsepower, might as well get a supercharger or nitrous instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hcomplyr
    I'm pretty sure that it can be done for less, and notice the cars on the list acura integra, honda civic/del sol... they're just price gouging to rape the average ricer out of his money. keep looking
    What a lot of people in the import scene know, 'hp aint cheap'. For reliable add's in horsepower, youre going to have to spend 1000's of dollars, no matter how you slice it.
    Quote Originally Posted by dodgetimes2
    15 HUNDO!!! Damn that's alot of money for a few extra horsepower, might as well get a supercharger or nitrous instead.
    lol supercharger for 1500? youre funny. Superchargers go for 3300+, laybor, and dont forget the bolt-ons you have to install to run them without blowing your engine. Good headers alone can cost 400bux and youre only adding 3-10hp. But anyways, anything with AEM brand on it is topnotch, and should be used concurrently with F/I or at least a built N/A engine..... at least i/h/e.

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    I'm not trying to argue about the price of superchargers ($1500 vs. $3300), just saying that $1500 could be spent in much better way. There are many other better mods that offer more bang for your buck. Or maybe a set of Whistler Tips!! WOO!!! WOO!!
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    Wow, JC has come a long way...

    Anyway, the biggest problem with performance mods is misinformation.

    I get kids coming into my work (I'm the performance guy at my parts store) asking for cheap performance mods, or asking for specific parts. Things like an AEM Fuel Rail, or that AEM Engine Management, or one of the other ones like the GReddy EManage. They're very nice upgrades, but it's like asking for a blow-off valve or boost controller for an N/A car. Added to the right setup, they help, but on their own, do almost nothing but look cool. The Engine Control computers aren't a lot of use on a stock engine, but when you've spent lots of money and tripled your horsepower, the stock ECM isn't going to cut it. You'll be looking at that AEM setup with a different opinion. It'll be your new best friend.

    Talking about the price of hor$epower, Part of the reason that it costs more to get max power out of newer cars is the optimization by the factory. Look at the S2000 for example. People are complaining that they spend thousands! on upgrades for it (Supercharger is most popular) only to get an extra 60-100 horsepower. The thing is, that engine is so optimized, that extra power is hard to get. Sure, a B18C can hit 400 HP, but won't be nearly as mild-mannered as the S2000 was designed to be, nor will it last as long.

    Anyway, this is getting a bit off-topic, so I'll let you guys get back to it.

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    I honestly think its worth modding your car, you might as well sell your old one and buy a new one which allready 400horses or whatever. Mods are waste of money, you will never get your money back for it. And these car dealers overprice them, because they know kids are somewhat foolish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elec999
    I honestly think its worth modding your car, you might as well sell your old one and buy a new one which allready 400horses or whatever. Mods are waste of money, you will never get your money back for it. And these car dealers overprice them, because they know kids are somewhat foolish.
    I agree that you never get back what you put into a car. (There are a few rare exceptions)

    Otherwise, if you're saying it's not worth it to mod a car, I disagree. Sure, I like the way my car looks, but I like things to be personalized. I want it to do thing things I like. Auto manufacturers have to cater to everyone, which means there's going to be some compromises. It's a lot like saying, why bother putting a car computer into your car. Why not just buy a new car that's got the full multimedia setup installed already. You never get your money back from buying a new car either.

    I also like fast cars, but I can't afford a Corvette or NSX or whatever fast car you prefer. So, why not buy (for example) a '92 Civic for $3000 and stick a GSR engine ($2500), turbo it ($3000). You should be looking at about 250-300+ horse, for less than $10,000.

    Anyway, my point is, it's all about what you want. It doesn't matter what other people think. In the end, you're the one that has to live with the car.

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