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    WARNING! Damage to your hard drives.

    People! Listen up!
    Yesterday I ran a through check of my new external hard drive which I was using for about 3 days now. I did a surface scan (although only completed 1/3) - I DETECTED 12 MEGABYTES IN BAD SECTORS!
    The hard drive is new. The reason I did the check was because it started skipping my songs and make funny noises, like if I was playing my music from a scratched CD.
    So be warned - those things are fragile. Now I'm going to have to complete a full scan (which usually takes up to 30 hours for just one 30GB partition). This sucks guys, I really have to figure out how to protect the drive now.
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    mount vertically? to something rigid?
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    Hmm. Maybe I should buy some high end RC oil filled shocks , reduce the spring rate, and make myself a little harddrive shock box :-D
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    these things happen, but they are rare. exactly how did you have it mounted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wizardPC
    these things happen, but they are rare. exactly how did you have it mounted?
    It was inside an external PCMCIA enclosure that was sitting under my seat. About two days after I purchased it it started skipping my music. I first tried everything - from re-installing Windows to connecting it to a desktop PC. There was enough power and the hard drive was new.
    Today I did diagnostics - holy cow, 12 mb in bad clusters, and that's only 1/3 of the check. I downloaded some special utility from manufacturer's website and hope to get it fixed within the next 12 hours. Otherwise I will have to wait several days before Windows ScanDisk completes. By the time it scanned 1/3 of my drive it has slowed to a crawl and I doubt that several days would be enough.
    If I can't fix this drive, I will have to buy a new one and hang it on rubber "suspension".

    Interestingly enough, my laptop HD (7 GB) works fine for over 3 month now that I have this carputer. The laptop hard drive is around 8 years old - the laptop I use was manufactured back in 1996.

    This sucks, yesterday I had to drive to Burger King without my music
    I still have the Pocket PC tho, but I'd rather not use that tiny thing for my music when I have a working carputer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuriy
    It was inside an external PCMCIA enclosure that was sitting under my seat.
    That is your problem. Your hard drive nees to be firmly mounted to something that won't move. I bet it bounced around a whole bunch sitting under a seat.

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    Not really, it was attached to the seat firmly. I would not let it bounce around for several reasons:
    1. It could get in the way of my gas/brake pedals
    2. It could get damaged
    I attached it to the seat using rubber bands and tape.
    However, it could still be a problem.
    Either way, do you guys have any suggestions on how to protect the drive from this sort of damage?
    Wrap it in pillows maybe?
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    Will it help to wrap it into this stuff?

    The hard drive heats up pretty good - could overheating be a factor?
    After all, it sits in the enclosure under the seat and there is only one fan which doesn't cool the hard drive, only its power supply unit.
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    the reason your laptop harddrive has no problems is because it is built to take the abuse more since it is intended for travel and movement.

    a desktop harddrive assume that you will hardly ever move it around.

    only real solution is either wrap it in packing bubbles, or make it a suspension box. my recommendation is to mount it vertically in a suspension box. gives it air to breathe.
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    Its not really suprising; you'll have to either replace frequently, or use ruggedized drives. I have found that laptop drives fair better than 3.5" drives, but the vehicle is a harsh environment. Its why Alpine and such are loathed to put a HDD solution on the market, the warranty problems would make for poor profit margins.

    Use two drives, RAID1 and throw drives away regularly.
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