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    USB 2.0 not supported by older systems ?!

    I just got my PCMCIA USB 2.0 cardbus with 4 ports. It works perfectly in my Dell Inspiron 1100 P4 laptop, but would not even detect in my older Pentium 133 carputer. This is werid because my PCMCIA slots show up as 32-bit, I beleive this is the latest kind and all cards should work on it.

    Any ideas? Is it possible that my system just won't support USB 2.0? You can see the specs in my sig.
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    IIRC win98 will not work with USB2.0, or with the newest cards.

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    I think you won't find a pentium 133 anything that will support USB 2.0
    I think it's to old a system. I've got a PIII 700 thinkpad that isn't USB 2.o
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    My OS is Windows 98 Second Edition, the system itself isn't that old, it's a 1997 model (well, 7 years isn't old, right? ). Anyways, I heard that Windows 98 SE should fully support USB 2.0, or at least USB 1.1. I have all the software updates installed. I have updated the BIOS to the latest version. Trust me, I could easilly get anything to work if it got detected. Drivers aren't the problem here. The card just doesn't get detected in this laptop. All I see in my PCMCIA monitor is "Slot 2 - Empty". There is no beep when I insert or remove this card..
    This sucks, it should at least get detected. That's what puzzles me.
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    yes, if the slots in your laptop are truely cardbus slots, then it should @ least detect the card. when you click the + next to pcmcia slots, the device that's in there should say cardbus in the name someplace, otherwise it's still the old PCMCIA. there may also be voltage differences and such, but i don't know which versions have which voltages and blah blah blah. if you can, shove in a cardbus wireless networking card and c what happens. also, shoving a cardbus card into an older pcmcia slot (like actually making it go in all the way) is near impossible w/o usin a bit of muscle as they are mechanically incompaible as well. what could be happening is you think the card is in (the eject button pops out or whatever), but its not actually makin contact w/ the pins inside the computer. don't force it in if this is the case, as it could damage the card or your computer. @ the least it'll break some mechanical plastic tab on the card. i'm sayin this is probably the case because cardbus is relatively new, and ur laptop is pretty old. i have a p133 laptop also, but that does not have cardbus slots. and believe me, actually jamming the cardbus card in there doesn't work electrically anyways hehe.... and then since it's detected in the newer laptop (those all have cardbus slots), i'm almost willing 2 bet that ur p133 laptop doesn't have cardbus slots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awh4992
    yes, if the slots in your laptop are truely cardbus slots, then it should @ least detect the card. when you click the + next to pcmcia slots, the device that's in there should say cardbus in the name someplace, otherwise it's still the old PCMCIA. there may also be voltage differences and such, but i don't know which versions have which voltages and blah blah blah. if you can, shove in a cardbus wireless networking card and c what happens. also, shoving a cardbus card into an older pcmcia slot (like actually making it go in all the way) is near impossible w/o usin a bit of muscle as they are mechanically incompaible as well. what could be happening is you think the card is in (the eject button pops out or whatever), but its not actually makin contact w/ the pins inside the computer. don't force it in if this is the case, as it could damage the card or your computer. @ the least it'll break some mechanical plastic tab on the card. i'm sayin this is probably the case because cardbus is relatively new, and ur laptop is pretty old. i have a p133 laptop also, but that does not have cardbus slots. and believe me, actually jamming the cardbus card in there doesn't work electrically anyways hehe.... and then since it's detected in the newer laptop (those all have cardbus slots), i'm almost willing 2 bet that ur p133 laptop doesn't have cardbus slots.
    LOL, thanks
    But.. The USB card fits in there perfectly without any use of force whatsoever. My laptop is gutted (no case) and I can see all the pins are connected perfectly. I am also able to get a Microsoft wi-fi cardbus device to work in any of the two slots without problems. It's just this particular USB that doesn't want to be detected. Strange because it detects and installs in my other laptop.

    However, in the device manager the PCMCIA slots don't show up as cardbus, just as a 32-bit PCMCIA controller.
    Maybe that's the case..
    I'm screwed..
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    Well, since that doesn't work, do any of you know some PCMCIA device that can enable my laptop to use at least USB 1.1?
    I really need that USB capability and the only way is through the PCMCIA socket.
    Is there a non-cardbus USB card out there?
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    something like this'll work (pcmcia type II card)
    http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...596&pfp=BROWSE
    but it's pretty freakin expensive. i'm a poor college student too, so if i'm gonna pay $50 for a dumb usb card, it better come w/ a usb mountain dew dispenser as well. which...it doesn't but i think u know what i'm gettin @
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    At least I know they exist
    That price is 1/3 of my system's entire cost
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