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    bloody computer - hdd nuked? (desktop, not car)

    help...

    built my new home computer the other day.... it's been working fine and i've just been loading everything up on to it.

    today i installed the wireless network and some other things...


    all fine....


    so, i think to myself - best start downloading things like firewalls and antivirus - necessary obviously.

    so i checked out micromart for reviews of firewall/antivirus software and f-secure internet security 2004 came highly recommended... so off i trotted to go get the trial version.

    downloaded fine, went to install it. installed fine, and asked for a reboot to finish. rebooted and started up fine... error came up regarding a component of the firewall and said it had to close. closed that, and continued to start setting up the firewall etc.

    all of a sudden i get a blue screen with eroor messages on and it won't do anything. i restart the computer and NO BLOODY HARD DRIVE!!!!

    it recognises my DVD as being a master on IDE2 (correct) but not the HDD on IDE1... tried swapping around IDE cables etc to no avail - as far as my computer is concerned there is no HDD.

    anyway i can confirm this? any advice? why would it have happened? guess i might have to take advantage of the 3 yr warrenty on my hdd

    oh, and it's a fairly new (few months) seagate barracuda 7,200rpm 80gb hdd

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    Any clicking noises?
    Does the drive spin up?
    Any visible burns on the controller PCB?
    Sounds like busted hdd.

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    pretty sure it's not controller PCB as i tried moving my DVD drive over to master on IDE1 and it picked up fine...

    drive doesn't do a thing, no clicking, no spinning.. nothing...

    just tried booting from XP cd too - with the hope of re-installing or repairing. it says there is no HDD and exits setup...

    just going to try my HDD in another rig and see what happens.

    is there anyway i could have caused this with incorrect installation of anything in the computer? bearing in mind it was working fine for a few days? (plus it's not the first computer i've built/upgraded)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty
    help...

    built my new home computer the other day.... it's been working fine and i've just been loading everything up on to it.

    today i installed the wireless network and some other things...


    all fine....


    so, i think to myself - best start downloading things like firewalls and antivirus - necessary obviously.

    so i checked out micromart for reviews of firewall/antivirus software and f-secure internet security 2004 came highly recommended... so off i trotted to go get the trial version.

    downloaded fine, went to install it. installed fine, and asked for a reboot to finish. rebooted and started up fine... error came up regarding a component of the firewall and said it had to close. closed that, and continued to start setting up the firewall etc.

    all of a sudden i get a blue screen with eroor messages on and it won't do anything. i restart the computer and NO BLOODY HARD DRIVE!!!!

    it recognises my DVD as being a master on IDE2 (correct) but not the HDD on IDE1... tried swapping around IDE cables etc to no avail - as far as my computer is concerned there is no HDD.

    anyway i can confirm this? any advice? why would it have happened? guess i might have to take advantage of the 3 yr warrenty on my hdd

    oh, and it's a fairly new (few months) seagate barracuda 7,200rpm 80gb hdd
    I've had that problem a thousand times.
    You have somehow erased your partition info.
    The easiest way out is to plug this drive into another PC that can boot to Windows and partition it using some program like PartitionMagic 8.0
    The harder way out is to use the MS-DOS fdisk utility to set up your partition.
    Whichever way you choose, you will loose all your data.
    You could probably recover it with PartitionMagic but it is risky as you will most likely have all kinds of file systems errors afterwards. If your drive is new like you said it shouldn't have anything important on it anyway. Make sure that you format it as soon as you get it partitioned.

    What could have caused this?
    Well, there are several things:
    1. Bad RAM is the most likely reason. It might look and even work ok, but if its bad it will keep damaging your drive.
    2. Bad clusters in the boot sector. Common problem, could be caused by anything. Easy to fix tho.
    3. Software somehow messed up your partition info. That happened to me a lot of times.

    Now, if you still can't get the thing to work there is one last desperate measure. Its called the low level format. Usually you can find special software from the manufacturer's website that will let you diagnose and do all kinds of things to your drive. I would suggest using that since manufacturers know their stuff better than Microsoft. After you low-level format the drive you will still have to partition it.
    If after low-level format you still can't use the drive then just exchange it.
    If they won't take your hard drive because it's still spinning, simply use high-voltage current for a few seconds to fry the drive completely. After that they will have no reason not to take it from you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty
    drive doesn't do a thing, no clicking, no spinning.. nothing...
    Oh hell, that pretty much means you are screwed. Exchange it right away.
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    now explain away this one!

    i had previously checked bios settings regarding the ide channels etc and all seemed in order, but i thought i would reset the bios to optimised defauls just to see if it helped, and what do you know? it's sorted... popped straight back into life and all data intact.


    thank fook....


    seems the software managed to corrupt the bios settings making my HDD undetectable by any means!

    cheers for the help though lads

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty
    now explain away this one!

    i had previously checked bios settings regarding the ide channels etc and all seemed in order, but i thought i would reset the bios to optimised defauls just to see if it helped, and what do you know? it's sorted... popped straight back into life and all data intact.


    thank fook....


    seems the software managed to corrupt the bios settings making my HDD undetectable by any means!

    cheers for the help though lads
    Yup, I also once had the same solution. Just go into BIOS, do an auto-detect and its back with all the data intact. Well, I'm glad it worked out that well fro you It's strange that it didn't spin before though.
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    that's the odd thing - i did an auto detect and it still did nothing... only resetting the bios completely managed to fix it

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty
    now explain away this one!

    i had previously checked bios settings regarding the ide channels etc and all seemed in order, but i thought i would reset the bios to optimised defauls just to see if it helped, and what do you know? it's sorted... popped straight back into life and all data intact.


    thank fook....


    seems the software managed to corrupt the bios settings making my HDD undetectable by any means!

    cheers for the help though lads
    This is not unheard of but the no spin fact led us to other paths.....go figure!
    Oh well, glad it works now

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