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    Question IDE cable solving

    Hey,

    My pc is located in the boot/trunk and so I used to have my DVD-ROM positioned on my parcel shelf. Big problem, the sun rays would heat the damn thing a treat.

    So, I got about 2-3 meters of IDE cable and extended the distance so I could place my DVD in the dash. I didn't think it would work 'cos I heard about length restrictions but I thought I'd try. Of course, no luck, it didn't work.

    Is there any solution to getting the DVD to work...or IDE cable should I say.

    Thanx

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    Unfortunately I don't know of any way around the IDE cable length restriction. Either move the drive closer to the pc, or if you really want it in the dash, consider changing to a SCSI drive and installing a SCSI controller. SCSI can handle much longer cable lengths without any performance issues.

    Paul

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    I too think you must go scsi to beat the length restriction. Unless you had the room to move the pc to the front.

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    Cool

    If you have USB ports in your machine, you can buy an external IDE case that uses a USB connection.

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    Ok here's the deal. You can extend your IDE cables.. I've extended mine by 12 feet! But here's the deal... It perfectly for audio cds and some data, however whenever I try it with DVD i get ALOT of artifacts on the screen. All you gotta do is cut the ide cable in half, and then solder on to each end 10/100 cabling! Simple, although it can take tame to make sure each and every wire is done properly. Give it a try and tell me if you got the DVD to work

    Ben

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    Thanx for your help guys.

    I would hope there is a way to tackle the IDE length problem so that more expensive equipment doesn't have to be used...I mean I think that this is part of everyone in the MP3car group as we all try to develop our technologies and aid each other to develop them. In my opinion it has progressed a lot.

    Do you think any circuitry can be made to boost the power sent across the cables if this is a problem?

    Thanx again

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    I think pulling apart an old IDE cable and using CAT5 cable would work!

    All you have to do is pull the clip off the top of the IDE connector, pop the cable out and start poping CAT5 wires on! No soldering, You just need to make sure you have them in the same order on the other end!

    Another thing you might want to do is find some shielded tape and cover the whole thing up when you're done to get even less interference.

    I have no need for this setup right now, but it makes me want to try it anyway!

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    Anybody know where I can get some shielded tape?
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    Cool

    Radio Shack has it. If not, then try DigiKey at http://www.digikey.com

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    Part of the "secret" behind Cat5 cable is also the fact that the wires inside are twisted to prevent crosstalk.
    You could emulate the same thing with a long IDE cable by VERY carefully splitting (seperating) the wires from end to end, then twisting them all up and taping the whole mess together.

    I have this in place where I work - it goes 5 feet up the wall, 10 feet across the ceiling and 6 feet down the other side, with no noticeable data loss.
    We just wrapped the whole mess up in household aluminum foil, then packing tape...It ain't pretty, but it works.
    The REAL expensive actual tin-coated duct tape should also work well for this app.
    Let me know which route you're gonna take.

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