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Thread: No one uses the EPIA-TC1000 or TC600, why?

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    What cases?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mick
    What are the advantages of using the carnetix power supply over just a sequencer/regulator like the ITPS? All the cases that I have seen already have a 12v DC-DC power supply, so I am just a bit confused I guess.
    First off I'm a bit confused what cases you're talking about, if you could specify I may be able to answer you. As far as the difference between the Carentix and the ITPS I've read on these forums that the ITPS won't survive engine crank. Anyway though, I'm not an expert on these two products but go to carnetix website and they have some articles on it and things that are linked to these forums so you can safely assume they're not [too] biased. Anyway hope this answers you a little.

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    I'm pretty sure the Motherboard still needs 12v and will reboot if its not there. Basically the Carnetix regulator accepts from 8-20V where the ITPS only copes with 11-18 or something like that. If you have no need to survive cranking then i guess the ITPS would suffice...

    As for the cases, i assume you are talking about the Morex cases etc. They all have Morex 60W PSUs in them, so you'd throw them out if you were using the Epia TC motherboards...

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    The ITPS will not survive cranking, and your PC will therefore reboot/shutdown everytime you start/stop the engine.
    Also, and larger spikes from the battery will damage the board. It needs a constant, steady 12v.

    If you want it in-car, Carnetix or Opus only.
    Do a search on these forums. LOADS of info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acura cl
    hey pabs... i'm having a problem with mine rebooting like crazy.

    i have a 3.5" 160 gig hard drive on mine and its regulated with an ITPS.

    other people on the forum said it was the hard drive making it reboot.

    are you having this problem?

    thanks.
    I have the TC10000, and was using the ITPS until recently. Basically the ITPS is crap. It puts such an insertion drop on the power I couldn't run the pc without the engine running. Even then the motherboard was only receiving 11.5v even though 13.8v was going into the ITPS. I've just received and installed the carnetix CNX-P1260, and it's an absolute joy! Even the cranking of my diesel doesn't bother it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick
    The motherboard itself is NOT a 12v component, it uses only 5v and 3.3v. 12 volts is only supplied for external 3.5" components such as a floppy, Hd, CD. etc. So, if I use 5v laptop drives, a constant 12 volt source does not seem to be an issue (correct me here if I am wrong).
    In theory yes, but from my own tests on the TC10000, if you drop below 11.3v input, it starts playing up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mick
    Voltage spikes on a 12v vehicle system are also something I consider to be extremelly rare if not close to non-existant. Case in point is that you already have a computer on board that controls the engine and it would be rendered inoperable if a "substantial' voltage spike were to occur.
    Not so much spikes, as ripples. That's why people get whistles and whines from cheap car amplifiers which pick these up on the DC lines. Having said that I got so fed up with my ITPS failing to support my TC10000 I just bypassed and ran it from the native car 12v, only effect I saw was a slight rippling effect on the Lilliput.
    Tankslappa

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    I am looking closely at a TC600 WINXPe. Finding it hard to justify the price though. :-/
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    Trillion,

    I believe what tankslappa was referring to was the TC6000 (not Asus TC600 WinXP system). The TC6000 motherboard has a +12V input with onboard DC-DC ATX PSU. The CarNetix regulator is a good match for these mobos with on-board DC-DC. It's a very cost effective solution.

    However, the ASUS TC600 also requires a +12V input. The CNX-P1260 is a good fit for this system. The P1260 includes a startup/shutdown controller so you won't need to spend the extra $ on a stand alone SSC.


    Hope this helps!
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    This what I've found....... http://www.logicsupply.com/product_i...roducts_id/174
    the spec on the TC10000.
    But I have a question what mades this one http://www.logicsupply.com/product_i...roducts_id/211 different beside the price???
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    the second one comes with a compact flash reader and pcmcia attachment.

    edit: if anyone is interested in a tc10000 i'll be selling mine soon because i have the nano-itx now.

    i'll have a huge f/s thread soon of all the extra carputer stuff i ended up not using.
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    Thank you for the reply... Keep me posted on your leftovers LOL
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