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    I have this board in my player with no problems. Video performance sucks, but hell, if your just playing MP3s it doesn't matter one bit. One thing though: this motherboard requires a power good signal. If you are going to run an Arise DC-DC converter (or other DC-DC) you will have to rig up a small circuit to provide it.
    Player: Pentium 166MMX, Amptron 598LMR MB w/onboard Sound, Video, LAN, 10.2 Gig Fujitsu Laptop HD, Arise 865 DC-DC Converter, Lexan Case, Custom Software w/Voice Interface, MS Access Based Playlists
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    this motherboard requires a power good signal. If you are going to run an Arise DC-DC converter (or other DC-DC) you will have to rig up a small circuit to provide it.
    I am wondering how can you do it. I have a similar mobo with Arise DC-DC converter. The mobo does have power but could not power on b/c of the power good signal. Please if you could give me a detail instruction and list of parts that I need to build the circuit. Thanks

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    Don't Use PC Chips Boards If You Want A Stable Machine, They Are Never Anygood For Long Periods Of Time. I Am A Computer Tech At A Big Local Computer Store. We Have The Worst Luck With PC Chips Boards. They Have Bad Driver Support For Newwer OS's Like 2k And ME. Also Forget A Warrenty With Them. Like Someone Said They Are For Dumb Termanals And Schools.

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    I Have To Ask. Why Do You Capitalize The First Letter Of Every Word You Type? It Looks Worse And Is Harder To Read That All Lower Case. If You're Going To Be Lazy, Please Be Lazy In A Way That Doesn't Make More Work For Us To Read.
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    Peace brethren...save the squabbling for the lesser bulletin boards...I'd like to think we are above that sort of behavior here.

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    Originally posted by Gary Meola, Jr.:
    <STRONG>Don't Use PC Chips Boards If You Want A Stable Machine, They Are Never Anygood For Long Periods Of Time. I Am A Computer Tech At A Big Local Computer Store. We Have The Worst Luck With PC Chips Boards. They Have Bad Driver Support For Newwer OS's Like 2k And ME. Also Forget A Warrenty With Them. Like Someone Said They Are For Dumb Termanals And Schools.
    -Gary</STRONG>
    A Big Local Computer Store eh? Well, can't argue with that.

    OK. PCChips motherboards do suck. I'm not contesting that. However, do we really need the best of the best if we are just playing MP3s? Hardly. As long as it works, then it's fine. I used the 571LMR for 1.5 years in my player without a problem, until I was rear-ended of course. I just replaced the board with the 586LMR and the player is working fine in the rental car. I would never, ever, ever sell a system with a PCChips motherboard. I don't need that hassle. And you really do have to buy 2 PCChips motherboards to get one good one. The video performance is terrible, but does it matter if you are just playing MP3s?

    So go ahead and use the board, as long as you know it's shortcomings. It's cheap, easy to replace and all in one. That's why I bought it in the first place.
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    Agreed, you are definitely right about having to buy two mb just to get one that works. Infact i recall having to buy more than 4 and still each one has its own problem. Gave up and closed my eyes and bought an
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    Never had any problems from that point on. One other thing ppl should try and avoid is NOT to go cheap on the MB....
    BTW, PCChips drivers are crap!
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    I am wondering how can you do it. I have a similar mobo with Arise DC-DC converter. The mobo does have power but could not power on b/c of the power good signal. Please if you could give me a detail instruction and list of parts that I need to build the circuit.
    I built up a circuit to do this a few weeks ago. I'll post my very poor circuit diagram (drawn in paint ) when I finally get back home. It uses a LM741 op-amp three resistors and a capacitor. I know it could have been done without the op-amp but a few other circuits I saw didn't work. The powergood line is just pulled low for half a second when power is applied to reset the mainboard after all the voltages have become stable.

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    Project name " Palamedes "
    Hi
    Sorry my bad English.
    I bought the Pcchips 586LMR. Almost same model 587LMR.
    I did't know, that this motherboard can playback DVD...jep without a DVD decoder card.
    I am happy the video performance. Okey some divx movies skipping quite lot.
    I am very happy, becouse motherbord very small and I don't have to use a DVD decoder card.

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    Go Distec, then Display Kits - Display Kits with RGB-Converter - TFT Kits Samsung - 10,4" - Kit LTN104S2-L01/Rainbow 10 (RGB)800X600; 230cd/m2, OSD, Single 12 V.

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    I have one problem, when I start to computer it sleep 5-7 second before then bios run.

    Did Aaron Cake mean with, this that proplem "One thing though: this motherboard requires a power good signal. If you are going to run an Arise DC-DC converter (or other DC-DC) you will have to rig up a small circuit to provide it. "
    I use the Arise ACE-865v. I don't
    switch powergood signal.....
    Thanks.......Charles Enwesi you are made greats program...

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    If your motherboard is working without a power good signal, then I wouldn't worry about it. Some motherboards need it, some don't. Basically, the "power good" signal is a signal from the power supply that the power has stabilised. This is applied to the motherboard about .5 seconds after the power supply activates. It tells the motherboard "OK, you can start to boot now". Some DC-DC converters don't provide it. The vast majority of motherboards don't need it nowadys, but occasionally you will find one. There is an easy fix though. Just punch the reset button about a second after you hit the power switch. Normally the board will then boot up...

    My 586LMR doesn't seem to need a power good signal.
    Player: Pentium 166MMX, Amptron 598LMR MB w/onboard Sound, Video, LAN, 10.2 Gig Fujitsu Laptop HD, Arise 865 DC-DC Converter, Lexan Case, Custom Software w/Voice Interface, MS Access Based Playlists
    Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
    "If one more body-kitted, cut-spring-lowered, farty-exhausted Civic revs on me at an intersection, I swear I'm going to get out of my car and cram their ridiculous double-decker aluminium wing firmly up their rump."

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