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    Lately my carputer has been restarting itself, seemingly randomly. I brought it inside to troubleshoot, and when it is running at any kind of angle, it will restart itself. I think the drive may have gotten damaged in my truck.

    I had it mounted vertically, although it was sitting at a slight angle in the truck.

    Would i have better luck with a laptop drive and springs or some sort of a suspension around the drive? Thanks for any help.

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    I think you will have more luck mounting the drive horizontally... that way the bumps don't throw the heads in other places... I changed mine and found that it was much more robust against the bumps in the road. But if your puter is restarting, you may not have a HDD problem. It sounds like either a wire is loose and is resetting the motherboard. (Even a wire that doesn't go to the motherboard could cause that). If not these, you may want to check heat problems next.

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    I doubt it's a hard drive problem. Probably a loose card, bad connection, or cracked motherboard. Boot up only the motherboard, then flex it slightly and see if it reboots.

    Do not use any suspension on your HD. Doing so will only cause more problems then it will solve (which several on this board have learned through bitter experience....including me).
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    Originally posted by Aaron Cake:
    <STRONG>Do not use any suspension on your HD. Doing so will only cause more problems then it will solve (which several on this board have learned through bitter experience....including me).</STRONG>
    I dont have any sort of shock absortion going on in my system, and being new to the forums, what problems have you had with the springs? the drive bottoming out?
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    Whoa whoa whoa..... Well.. then I have a question... I know this is going to sound newbie because I'm sure I could search and find it... and I will in just 2 secs.... But heres my theories....

    My thought is that mounting the drive vertical would be much better. As with the way the arm moves over the platter... etc.... less chance of it hitting or the platter being bounce into the arm.

    Also.... well hells bells... I don't know. I thought it would just be better to mount it that way for jitters and protection of the drive... Was thinking about doing something with tight springs or some firm rubber bands to allow just a little bit of give. say less than a half inch max. Oh well... I may ammend this in a few secs after searching....

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    Charles and Aaron.... after searching through the threads... I'd like to say your responses were the most helpful on this subject. Now I don't feel so worried mounting in vertically... because basically it sounds like it doens't matter.... hehe...

    (Well i guess that search thing really works)

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    Aaron, what kind of problems did you have with the shock absorbtion on the HDD's? I am about to start my setup, and i was thinking of making provisions for shock aborbtion, but i do not see a reason to mount it vertically.

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    This is very interesting. I have almost exclusivly been told that mounting the drive vertically is necessary. I am very interested in knowing what types of problems a suspension would present. As long as it dosent bottom out, it seems to be it could only be beneficial. Even if it didnt flex more than a half an inch, it would lower the forces down to acceptable levels. Most drives can take around 50 G's, and that acceleration is sustainable for only a millisecond or two on a very rigid surface. It seems that with tight rubberbands or stiff springs, it would work well.

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    I dont remember who said it, but I got this response when I asked this question as a newbie:

    "Hard drives can handle 50-60 G's. If you are experiencing 50G's in your car, you have WAY bigger things to worry about than a hard drive failure."
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    Originally posted by wizardPC:
    <STRONG>
    "Hard drives can handle 50-60 G's. If you are experiencing 50G's in your car, you have WAY bigger things to worry about than a hard drive failure."</STRONG>
    I also heard this, and asked my physics teacher. He said that that type of acceleration is entirely possible. It comes from the deceleration, as in the floor moving upward from the shock absorbers after a bump, and the case of the computer falling downwards. When they hit, for a millisecond the rate of deceleration is very great, which is enough to cause a problem for the hard drive.

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