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    hardware requirement *long*

    ok, i've been debating whether to stick in a full blown computer in the car (likely celeron 1.xxGhz) or mini-itx (mII12000).

    full blown computer with nice video card (ati variant) would definitely be faster for visualization (while playing mp3s), but the current draw is an issue for me. i have multitude of electronics (3 gauges, vafc-fuel trimming device, wideband unit, aftermarket ecu, 3 amps (arc 2100-110w x 2, arc 2500-1000w x 1, arc 4150-75w x 4), 2 10" subs. i think all these equipments are putting stress on my electrical system and i'd hate to suffer drivability for carputer that'll only perform dvd,mp3,navigation and occasional divx processing.

    how fast is MII1200? i've read their reviews on mini-itx.com and such, but they never compare it directly against off the shelf systems (i.e. p4, athlon, celeron). will MII1200 have enough juice to run all those mentioned apps and possibly more?

    i'd most likely put the carputer in my glove compartment box (99 accord coupe) or center console. will heat be an issue? they're both closed space and i'm not sure if the area will be heatsoaked for deterimental effects.

    here's my setup i've pieced together, please critique! thanks!

    pw200 + ITPS (or would opus 150 be better?)
    m2 12000 (on board video, sound)
    256 or 512mb ddr ram
    100+ gb HDD
    xenarc 7" touchscreen LCD
    wireless keyboard (maybe, maybe not)
    gps mouse + software (still not sure which one to go with)
    dvd/cd-rw drive (so i can burn mp3 cd's for friends in car)

    also, as for usb current leak with the car off, wouldn't ITPS completely cut the current going into the powersupply? if so, there shouldn't be any current leak issues correct?

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    any idea on performance of MII12000 or MII10000 compared to celerons, pentiums or athlons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashzero
    any idea on performance of MII12000 or MII10000 compared to celerons, pentiums or athlons?
    anyone?

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    A 1ghz nehemia (via) is roughly about the same performance as a 600mhz PIII.

    However, it has hardware MPEG support too.
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    If you are thinking P3 levels I have had good results with the celerons of that era (socket 370)

    I also have a CPU that I would sell if you are interested. 1.1 or 1.2 I do not remember $30. if you would like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pip
    A 1ghz nehemia (via) is roughly about the same performance as a 600mhz PIII.

    However, it has hardware MPEG support too.
    ahhh...600mhz celery? good god, slower than i expected! but hardware mpeg2 decoding would help with dvds i assume.

    for ****s and giggles, anyone know how much current draw there is on microATX celery 1.x GHz variant? how would the current draw compare to nehemiah? thanks again all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashzero
    ahhh...600mhz celery? good god, slower than i expected! but hardware mpeg2 decoding would help with dvds i assume.

    for ****s and giggles, anyone know how much current draw there is on microATX celery 1.x GHz variant? how would the current draw compare to nehemiah? thanks again all.
    i'm running a M2-12000, with 512Mb ram. A fast HD does magic too. I Play DivX movies, while reading OBD2-information and doing navigation. Next thing I'm adding is phone control over Bluetooth. I have no performance issues AT ALL for the moment and I'm still expanding my software. I do however use Embedded XP, with NO swap file support.
    More details of what my software does that needs (some) performance:
    - Visual tank contents icon with gradient progress visualisation
    - Mileage visualisation icon
    - Audio feedback on every button pressed in the software
    - the OBD2-thing that constantly communicates with ECU
    - Visual feedback on playing media, ID3v2 support for music
    - the GPS that is always running

    And I still don't notice any performance drops in the system...
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    ahhh, i was taking a long HARD look at m2 12000 for my setup!
    how does the nehemiah 1.2Ghz handle the visualization (when playing mp3)? not sure how intensive the visualization is, but it's test the video/cpu powess well. also, it'd suck to have choppy visualization imo. please let me know, thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Needstorage
    i'm running a M2-12000, with 512Mb ram. A fast HD does magic too. I Play DivX movies, while reading OBD2-information and doing navigation. Next thing I'm adding is phone control over Bluetooth. I have no performance issues AT ALL for the moment and I'm still expanding my software. I do however use Embedded XP, with NO swap file support.
    More details of what my software does that needs (some) performance:
    - Visual tank contents icon with gradient progress visualisation
    - Mileage visualisation icon
    - Audio feedback on every button pressed in the software
    - the OBD2-thing that constantly communicates with ECU
    - Visual feedback on playing media, ID3v2 support for music
    - the GPS that is always running

    And I still don't notice any performance drops in the system...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashzero
    ahhh, i was taking a long HARD look at m2 12000 for my setup!
    how does the nehemiah 1.2Ghz handle the visualization (when playing mp3)? not sure how intensive the visualization is, but it's test the video/cpu powess well. also, it'd suck to have choppy visualization imo. please let me know, thanks!
    Well, sorry, but I can't help you out on this one, I do not use visualisations because I use DirectX directly from my application.
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