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    I have an iPaq 3650. From what I understand, there is a PCMCIA external audio card out there, that, when used with the adapter jacket, will provide audio on par with any Creative Labs card below Audigy 2.
    I had been thinking along the same lines about a PocketPC-based carputer, although for it to be very effective, I would still need a mini-pc to drive a decent-sized harddrive.
    My solution to THAT particular nightmare was to install a version of Linux on the unit, then use NXserver (thin-client remote control app) to control the PC over wireless. This would pretty much rule out video, but those of you who know me here know how I feel about in-car video anyhow.
    The biggest issue I would have with this setup is that I would be basically using the iPaq as a touchscreen, and not much else if there's another PC in the car. Why go through all that hassle if I could simply cut out the iPaq and install a Liliput instead?

    Anyhow, the idea posted here seems pretty sweet. My thoughts on the same type of project would be radically different if I had an adapter like that available to me, methinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuriy
    (edited) I would really appreciate that. I have fixed Pocket PC's before so it's not a problem. The reason I want to buy a new one is because I couldn't find a replacement LCD for my current device.
    By the way, a PPC could be molded into the dash!
    funny circumstances...

    My old business parter just called me and we were talking, and he said that his battery was dead in his PPC. I talked him into buying one and he doesn't even use it ( technically challenged ).. So, I have (2) people to find the info for..

    If I remember, you can send the unit to the guy or just get the parts. I would be afraid of breaking something, so I would just send him the unit...

    Anyway, off to look at 3 systems ago Favorites listing ( 1 of 40 DVD's for a 2k file )


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    I guess I will be the first one to say that this is a bad idea if you are going to use the e740. I am a former e740 owner, and I was one of the lucky ones, there are so many flaws in this unit, I won't even bother with those, but one of the main issues will be that the external VGA output is SLOW. I loved my PDA, but the many issues forced me to return it back to CompUSA to get my money back after owning it for 1.5 years (TAP plan). Toshiba left the US PDA market less than a few weeks ago because it was a disaster. Check out the forums on brighthand.com if you are serious about this, to learn about to issues and see if you can work around them. Good luck!

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    I too am very interested in this idea of using a pocket pc as a car pc, I currently have a car pc installed in my car but I am using a keypad and a 40x2 character LCD as the interface. It would be really good to be able to use my pocket pc (HP IPAQ 4150) to interface using wireless or bluetooth with the car pc... or even better, to remove the car pc all together and just use the pocket pc with some sort of external hard disk (I am yet to find a way to attach a an external hard disk to my ipaq, anyone know how?).

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    I believe (but am not sure) that they sell USB host adapters using the Compact Flash interface, might be worth checking out if your PDA supports it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuriy
    The drivers aren't very hard to port, I think, but we'll need somebody (read Frodo) with the correct skills to do it
    Not likely. That would require the source-code for the drivers, which the manufacturers are fairly unlikely to release! I know the touchscreen is a fairly generic driver though (used in lilliput, plus the touch panels from digitalww and likely other sources), so perhaps the manufacturer could be badgered to release a driver? Can't see it myself though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerPrince
    Not likely. That would require the source-code for the drivers, which the manufacturers are fairly unlikely to release! I know the touchscreen is a fairly generic driver though (used in lilliput, plus the touch panels from digitalww and likely other sources), so perhaps the manufacturer could be badgered to release a driver? Can't see it myself though.
    Maybe I'm missing something really obvious, but aren't the drivers already available for windows CE?

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    Hey,

    Why worry about finding CE/Windows Mobile touchscreen drivers. Just get a PPC with Linux.

    http://www.sharpusa.com/products/Typ...56,112,00.html

    I've been checkin out the Sharp products for 5 years now.

    Very good. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1103986,00.asp

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    Perhaps something like this will meet some peoples needs: -

    http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/tips/margi_presenter.htm

    It provides VGA output for any sdcard/cfcard pda. no USB unlike the toshiba, but it does have infra-red with remote. perhaps that can be programmed in a girder-stylee to control software on the pda?

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    Couldn't you just use the adapter at the begaining of the post and use an extrnal harddrive? But instead of using a ppc, why dont you use a tablet pc instead. There more faster, bigger, have a big enough harddrive in them, and some of them have great audio hook-ups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger87
    Couldn't you just use the adapter at the begaining of the post and use an extrnal harddrive? But instead of using a ppc, why dont you use a tablet pc instead. There more faster, bigger, have a big enough harddrive in them, and some of them have great audio hook-ups.
    Yes, you can use any external USB storage device, be it DVD, HDD, or a card reader. The tablet pc approach is of course better, but what if you already own a PPC and don't want to buy another piece? Actually, I might buy a Tablet PC instead, but I do need a Pocket PC for my work - my software is currently my only income since I don't have a steady job. Not only that, but it's also very convenient since you don't need to spend hours working, you just release something new an collect revenues for the next few month. I need a Pocket PC for testing purposes.

    The e740 is indeed very buggy, but I love its touchscreen, its very accurate (unlike the iPAQ's). I might buy an e755 which has all the features plus it can be upgraded to Windows Mobile 2003. It is also possible to install Linux on your PDA, but I beleive the only available distros were created and tested exclusively on iPAQs. Toshibas has too much exclusive hardware in them, like the wi-fi and the SD and CF slots together. Toshiba has abandoned all their PPC models previous to the e800, which by the way is one of the first PPCs to have a VGa screen (640x480). I don't see any use for it in the car though, but it could be useful if I want to look in the future and develop software for this new technology. It's rather expensive for what it does, so yeah, if you don't need a PPC for whatever you need it, get a Tablet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger87
    Couldn't you just use the adapter at the begaining of the post and use an extrnal harddrive?
    Um, you could if you have a Toshiba PDA. As it is I have a Dell, others may have Ipaq etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerPrince
    Um, you could if you have a Toshiba PDA. As it is I have a Dell, others may have Ipaq etc...
    Yeah, but there are generic CF USB hubs out there, just plug it in and connect up to 256 devices to it



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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuriy
    Yeah, but there are generic CF USB hubs out there, just plug it in and connect up to 256 devices to it
    My Axim doesn't have CF.

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    My Ipaq does... And SD... And Bluetooth for my Navigation. I love HP.

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