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    I got my computer for 129. Canadian! It was an old IBM netvista, with a celeron 566, 256 Ram and 7 gig HD. I replaced the hard drive with a 60 gig, and I'm going to double the memory. Should be good enough for in the car, I find it very good right now.

    The neat thing about that computer is it has a tiny powersupply, tiny black case, very small mobo, flexATX i think. It also came with windows 2000 pre installed.

    I've attached 2 pics, one shows you the size of the mobo, in the other you can see the little 90Watt powersupply, (AC-DC) and the Harddrive.
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    Oh yeah I use an inverter too, works pretty good, I have a 450 marine inverter, works just fine, (so far, 6 months). Only cost me 40 bucks, got it half price at the lovely Canadian Tire.

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    Slitha,
    Go with the Biostar case Model 200S, this should work fine for any of the Processors from Intel, but it does not yet support the 533mhz Celeron D processors. We use this case all the time, and you should find it for about $140, with 200w power supply.

    I know that we get this case at work for about this price above. The chepest I found it on Froogle for is $164.95, Click here to see.

    Here is a Link with an AMD Processor and all the models from Biostar for good prices click.

    Hope this helps. I love the shuttle form factor, but we used the SN41G2 for a long time, and then switched to the Biostar Models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBFoxbat
    why do you want to change the multiplier ?
    because the mobile athlon is not recognised properly and defaults to minimum settings which gives 800mhz - not much good. Most micro ATX (especially thr nforce 2 with Geforce 4MX graphics) have limited bioses that are not designed for overclocking so you have to either cut/install jumper tracks on the chip itself (DIY CPU surgery) or put wires linking certain pins in socket. Both these approaches are risky and could leave you with a blown CPU or worse if you mess it up. Also i would like to be able to tweak my chip easily in the car if it is running too hot. With either of these mods i would have to take the chip out everytime.

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    Cheap computers

    I am very budget minded and I have been trying to do my carputer build on the cheap. I think the only big ticket item is going to be the PSU.

    If you want to go cheap you just have to be patient and wait for the deals. Check your local classifieds every week. There are always 15-20 computers on sale and I live in a pretty small city. Check thrift stores as well. Sometimes you can find a really underpriced gem. Most people actually ask way too much for their old PCs, but I've called people before and made low-ball offers. $50-$100 can get you a TON of used computer gear.

    Ebay is decent, but shipping is a huge cost. I recently bought an old P2 450 w/ 128 ram in a small form case for under $40 after shipping. It was perfect, because the case had the exact dimensions I wanted and new small form cases can be expensive. You'd be surprised what you can run on a 450 mhz processor. I have a P3 450 running Win2k(nlited) that can handle 20 simultaneous bittorrent downloads! If you put a good, fast hard drive in an old computer and do some OS tweaks, you can get them humming.

    For my carputer I am either going to stick with the P2 450 or put my Celeron 1.3ghz in there. (The Celeron is from an old emachines I got for around $200 in the classifieds with 256 ram, 40 gig hd, and a 17 in monitor, and a real Windows XP CD!). The old PC I just bought off of ebay should arrive today and I am going to start doing some testing.

    Also, keep in mind that you might need to budget some money for software. I know there is a ton of great freeware software out there, but as I have going through planning out my system I have discovered there is just some software that you've got to lay out cash for.

    So my advice is be patient, look for the blockbuster deals, and have fun with it. It is taking me a while to get this project finished, but the extra time is allowing me to really consider what I want my system to look like. I have realized that everything on my wishlist I can either buy used, make myself, or do without!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Monkey
    because the mobile athlon is not recognised properly and defaults to minimum settings which gives 800mhz - .....

    I understand why I would change the multiplier, as in overclocking, but I can't fathom a reason to need that in a car. I know the Athlon MP use less power but it's not applicabale to with situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBFoxbat
    I understand why I would change the multiplier, as in overclocking, but I can't fathom a reason to need that in a car. I know the Athlon MP use less power but it's not applicabale to with situation

    An optical drive is a CD, DVD drive.
    I think you are missing my point. If you have no mulitplier control you can't get over 800mhz with a chip that can go up to 2ghz (eg the 2400 xp-m). i would like to be able to change the muliplier in bios so i dont have to do dodgy mods to the CPU or socket and would also like to be able to slow the cpu down if it is getting too warm in my boot. Some bios don't even have adjustble fsb. I am not bothered about adjusting the speed in windows but it would be nice to be able to go into the bios and slow it down or speed it up if the temp is ok. Even jumpers would be eaiser than the wire mod to adjust and i havent used them on a mobo since 1998.

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    In the hundred or so systems I've built, the only time I've ever not had a motherboard recognize a CPU properly is on the old motherboards where there is a 100/133 MHZ FSB jumper that I forgot to change.

    All VIA KT400 and KT600 chipsets support FSB and multiplier changes. Almost all current motherboard support FSB changes. And most that support FSB changes support multiplier changes. I know some motherboards appear to not support multiplier changes (no it's not greyed out, it's just not there) until the CPU is unlocked, though this isn't a problem with MP chips.

    It seems to my that an MP chip in a car is sort of a waste. A 1Ghz chip (a real one not a Via) is plenty for a carputer.

    If you are looking to have a high performance rig in your car, then you're probabaly going to have a high performance motherboard. If that's the case, you wouldn't care about price. Nor, for that matter, be asking questions in this forum.

    I have an old 950 Mhz Duron from a Gateway that would be perfect for a car rig. Loaded with 512 RAM it flies in XP. If I had room in my truck, I assure you it would be there now.
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    Why are you going on about how many PCs you have built? If you want to do some reading on mobile athlons then you will see that most (if not all) desktop motherboards don't recognise them. Its a fact. And its also a fact that thr ASUS nforce 2 board (like the one MatrixPC uses) does not allow FSB and multiplier changes full stop which for an Asus board is a serious omission.

    It is quite common for people to choose mobile athlons cos they use 35-45W depending on the model and i can get one for about £50 + about £40 for the mobo and i have some DDR lying round so i can get this up and running for around £100 which is what i would end up paying on an epia and i don't want to settle for an Epia - i can't hide the epia anywhere special so i may as well use a micro ATX board and i can't believe you are telling me that a mobile athlon i will be running between 1.5 and 1.8 ghz is too much wneh there are people out there running P4 2.4 ghz desktop cpus.

    I have an IBM laptop with a P3 700 cpu in it i was going to use with over 300mb of ram and i have done a good job setting up XP on it but it is a waste of a nice little laptop and i know it is going to have little moments when i have gps and music running and then use it to answer the phone. You don't have to tell me about what you can do with a PC below 1 GHz as my main PC is only a slot 1 866 that i have had for years and yes it is crap and slow and can't play any games relaesed in the last 2 years but i don't care and may main use is email, internet, web sites, bit of C++ but in my car i really don't want the Pc to have moments of gayness when it slows down as i want it to look professional - as it would if i didnt have to run crappy winXP and could get away with using a CPU lower than 500mhz.

    I don't think there was any need for your "If that's the case, you wouldn't care about price. Nor, for that matter, be asking questions in this forum" - wft was all that about????? Do i look like i am putting some kind of super PC in my car? no! I don't have a whole load of money to spend which is why i am trying to get the best value for money and if I feel that mobile athlon is the way to go then that is my choice (and the same for many like me). I can go out and buy an old 1ghz CPU and a mobo to run it but then be unhappy with it in a year or so or i can spend a little bit more and get something which should last me a bt longer and have everything i am likely to need - firewire, usb2, 800x480 graphics, low power consumption. I don't have an old PC lying around to use and i have never had a brand new pc and for once would like to have something decent in my car at least so i can rely on it.

    you say 1ghz is enough for a car pc and yeah you are right, its damn fine but it was also cutting edge for a desktop several years ago and now look what we have - i took a look at your site and saw the great looking water cooled rig that you have but someone could argue that the money you spent on water cooling and stuff could be better spent on a faster CPU but obviously you didnt think so and also when you look back at that PC in 2 years you will think "how slow is that compared to what i have today". There is nothing more embarassing than showing off your project that you have worked ages on and then it starts going slow infront of people and thats what i want to avoid and i also don't want to get angry and punch my touch screen when i am in a traffic jam and the PC gets hot and slows down - why i want a good high quality CPU that i can underclock if I find it is running too warm. An Epia 1.2ghz is £120 and i can build a mobile athlon with better graphics for less - what would you choose? And i don't see you having a crack at people using epias.

    Also i know that via chipsets are adjustable but the graphics suck. I can get a VIa board for £25 and put an AGP car into it but i don't want the hassle of having to get an agp card and worrying about it coming loose and the extra power it will consume and the extra height it will add.

    I was going to buy a Xenarc but am now ordering a LinITX so the £100 i save puts a decent cpu and mobo in my car! Sorted!

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    You could go Mini-itx if all you're looking for is cutdown video and mp3s. I'm running a 600mhz fanless mini-itx w/built-in video and audio, with onboard lan. Only thing you'd have to get is RAM, and that's what, Kingston 3200 256mhz for $60ish? The 600mhz board cost me $125, and the 1ghz board was around $165. Check Frys.com for the cheapest mini-itx boards, or mini-itx.com for the complete listing. Hell, I got the board, RAM, 802.11b/g usb link, USB FM adaptor and a HD for around $500. Think about it.

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