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    MB870 & Slimline Floppy Drives

    Okay, I've been battling with slipstreaming a windows install CD in order to have the SATA drivers for windows installer. However, nothing seems to have worked, no USB stick or USB floppy drive has worked unfortunatly so I've admitted defeat and am now trying to source a slimline floppy drive to be done with it. Can anyone name the type of interface the floppy uses on the MB870 as its not the same as ur normal desktop connection?. I believe the power and data both go thru the same ribbon cable. I've been searching high and low for a slimline internal floppy drive, but no-one has enough technical data on the drives their selling to be sure if its the right type or not (

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    i think its a normal floppy connector... have you tried a typical floppy ribbon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spiffomatic64
    i think its a normal floppy connector... have you tried a typical floppy ribbon?
    It definatly isn't a standard connector. If you take a look here:

    http://store1.yimg.com/I/yhst-851431...4_1852_2480511

    The floppy connector is the slim black connector, pointing vertically, at the very top right of the picture. It's partially obsured by the silver USB port housing, but it extends more or less to the top edge of the board. As you can see, its totally different to normal and requires a ribbon cable without any conector as such (totally flat, with just the electrical contacts at either end)

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    whats the black connector on the bottom left next to the blue IDE connector then?
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    Okay, i just got myself through that exact same problem and solved it WITHOUT a floppy drive. If you have AIM or any other way to get in touch i can try to help a little bit better.

    I almost resorted to buying one of those FDD's but didnt want to wait another week or more once i ordered it(almost impossible to find them in any computer store, if you can even get the tech to understand what you are trying to find). If you want you can buy one online, i dont remember how much i found them for. Or else there's something like this, just a floppy drive adapter (such as this) they also make these for sata drives; SATA ---> IDE (like this). This way windows will hopefully see it as an IDE drive and you can just load the sata drivers once windows is installed.

    Those are just a couple of things you could try. But since there are an abundance of old drives laying around at work and home i decided to plug it in and install windows on that first to see if the sata drive would even show up under windows (I was starting to suspect that the mobo was defective).

    This may now depend on what sata drive you have. Since i have maxtor they offer their MaxBlast software free on their website (I already had a copy of one of my co-workers cd's). The CD is bootable and formats/partitions your hard drive for either IDE or SATA drives (be sure you have your CD drive to boot first in the bios). You can set the disk/partition to be a storage drive or a boot drive.

    I set the IDE drive that i found laying around as a boot drive and set the 300GB sata drive to storage (be sure to check the master/slave/cable select jumper settings on the IDE drive... i think mine was on master, not sure though). I installed windows to the IDE drive and booted it up. It saw the sata drive right away so i knew the mobo was alright. I popped the maxblast CD into the drive again and restarted.

    Once it was back in the MaxBlast software i went to re-format the sata drive. It will ask again (under the advanced options) to set the drive as a BOOT drive or a storage drive. SELECT THE BOOT DRIVE INSTALLATION.

    There is a screen where you will see a loading bar as it loads files onto the drive. As a storage drive this loading bar only lasts a few seconds; when you install it as a boot drive with the other IDE drive connected it will take a good while to load the files because it is GHOSTING the original boot drive onto the new boot drive.

    Bingo... problem solved! Just remove the IDE drive and it will boot straight into the sata drive. Magic i tell you, MAGIC! Personally with such a big drive i set a 10GB partition for the windows install and the rest as storage. Im not positive what the software for other sata drives is like but i can imagine they would have the same functions. Before i started i had no idea what all the features of the maxblast software were so i just happened to stumble on this solution without ever having to resort to a floppy drive.

    Again, if you want to contact me my e-mail is [email protected]. If there are any other questions i could help answer let me know. I'm going to tack on another post in a minute with some more questions regarding the MB870. Does anyone know if there are any more posts about it?
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    Some MB870 questions/concerns

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    Okay, there are a few questions that i would like to bring up regarding the MB870. I dont know who out there has this board and has decided to use all its functions (and it has a damn lot of them). I would like to add this to a general discussion post about this motherboard but since it deals with this post i'll start it here and hope for some feedback.

    Questions/concerns in order of points on the posted diagram.

    1. Northbridge heatsink. IMPORTANT!!!!!! Ibase did a lousy job with the heat transfer compound! A small drop and spread around with a finger... A FINGER! Anyone that knows about installing headsinks knows to place a big enough drop that wont ooze all over the board once the heatsink is applied. BUT the heatsink should be the thing to evenly spread the compound onto the surface of the chip to get MAXIMUM heat transfer. Remove the heatsink, clean, and slap some more paste on it buddy!

    2. The clear CMOS jumper... VERY handy... just thought i would let you all know... If the computer hangs up and wont get bast detecting any hardware clear the CMOS and then go back into BIOS and manually reset the settings based on your needs.

    3. WTF are these two pins?? and why are they so close to the USB headers?

    4. WHAAAAAAT?? My usb connecter is 5 pins but there are only 4 pins for an extra USB port, whats with that!?!? WELL... USB is actually only 4 pins, +5, GND, +Data, -Data... the 5th is an extra ground for the cable shielding(and maybe the connector shield? not sure...). Very helpful link! But still? Why do all these have to be so jammed up, you either have to butcher the extra USB connector or separate the wires from the connector... LAME (unless you have a nifty one with the wires already separated.) I have no idea but maybe those 2 pins right next to the USB pins are for the USB? HIGHLY DOUBTED! I've tried using the extra USB ports but kept having to clear the CMOS to get the computer to startup again. Maybe they need to be set up in BIOS? Oh well, I'm lazy so i jsut bought a USB hub.

    5. I havnt seen any other documentation on this but the manual says you can set up another RCA video out connector... So that makes it what... 1 VGA, 2 LVDS, and 2 RCA video out connections? 1, 2, ... thats like a million screens!!!

    Anybody have any feedback or any more questions??? POST EM! I want to get my moneys worth out of this board.
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    1GB SDRAM
    300GB Maxtor SATA HD
    (Seeing as though i work for Maxtor)
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    Deck Ice USB illuminated keyboard
    Lilliput 7" Touchscreen
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