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    Maintaining constant power while car is idling

    I have a carputer via laptop running for the past 6 months.It uses a laptop without the battery because this way it turns on when thew car is cranked.When the car is at traffic lights and the music up loudish it draws too much current and the power cuts out for a millisecond which cause the laptop to reboot.
    I think a solution may be to use a power capacitor.
    Has anyone ever used one of these? wouold it be able to maintain laptop power when the car is stopped for split seconds when the volume is up loudish?
    I can get between 1 and 15 farad caps - which would you reccommend?

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    Do you have a Multimeter or Voltmeter?

    Check the voltage across your battery during a full load at idle. Does it drop below 12v? If so, check your alternator cable connections and clean/tighten your battery terminals/connections. Does it still do this?

    Also, check the voltage at your PSU. If it is lower than at your battery, you need to address your wiring/connection.

    Always better to diagnose than to spend $$ on on parts that you may not need. It may also be your alternator.

    You can find multimeters for super cheap at Home Depot or you can invest in a good one from Fluke.
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    cps are genreally 1kW to 1 farad. it all depends on your system. If you're running 3 1000W amps, you'll need 3 farads.
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    Vexed

    I have a voltmeter and obviously it drops below 12 volts otherwise i wouldnt be having this problem. I dont have subs.just an amp(2 X 100 watt) a laptop and 2 standard speakers(200 watt each).All i want to know is if anyone can say for sure that a 1 farad cap will stop the laptop from cutting out when the car is idling at traffic lights for eg.

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    Can you increase 'tickover' rpm of engine so alternator still puts out a voltage?

    most dont charge at low engine speed.

    I have mine set at 900 rpm, was 700
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    Idling

    Yes its a possible solution but would only work upto a certain point.(ie id prob have to set the revs to 11-1200 for it to be able to handle all volume levels up to max)
    In hind sight i think i am looking for a solution where it will work even when the car is switched off.For this it looks like a second battery is the way to go but i need to find out about this first cos i onyl want it to kick in whenthe ignition is turend on and im not sure how this can be done.

    What i want/need is a second battery in the boot that only kicks in when the ignition is turned on and charges aswell. but sits there charged when laptop etc is turned off.

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    Eureka!

    Im going to try this and report back to u guys

    http://www.freeinfosociety.com/site.php?postnum=9

    Here is what it says:

    "Installing a second car battery is a fairly simple procedure. All you need is two wires, and a battery. Regardless of what you have heard from morons who think they know everything about electricity when it comes to car audio, all you need is some realy cheap plain jane copper wire. Anything from 12 ga on up is probably adequate thickness since copper is an excellent conductor. The battery size is up to you, just make sure the standard voltage is 12V.

    The best location for an extra battery is in the trunk, since there is probably no room in the engine bay without heavy modifications, and you probably don't want a big heavy battery sitting in the cabin of the vehicle.

    If you have a car audio amplifier installed, the installation is that much easier. All you need to do is ground the grounding wire from the negative (-) terminal on the battery to the same place you grounded the amplifier. Then run the power cable up to your other battery and attach it to the positive terminal (+) or just attach it to the power cable to your amp where it meets your amplifier. The hardcore attach the power cable right to the alternator, but I have it attached to my amplifier and i have had no problems with power drains, even using a 12 ga. cable with an 800W amplifier. However you do it, it will work and you will now have at least twice the stored power available that you once had before.

    This takes a huge load off of the alternator, extending its lifetime, and allows you to install more audio amps or other electrical devices. No more headlight dimming or crummy sound from the subwoofers"


    It sounds like a good idea to me.

    Damo642

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    One thing here lads.

    If i attach the power cable to the amp then the battery will always be on.
    But if i attach it back to the + on the main battery it will have to run through the key power ignition in order for the system to get power.
    Which is the way i want it to be.

    This is the way i need to do it right?

    Damo642

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    Here are a couple of other links regarding dual batteries that you may find helpful:

    http://www.bajataco.com/dualbatts/dualbatteries01.html

    http://4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/DualBatteries.shtml

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    Just carry around a 12v (automotive) battery in a backpack. You can probably find a rebuilt one at a scrap yard. Make sure to get some thick jumper cables too. Then you can just leave the laptop on all the time and jump the batt. when it dies.
    You can also raise the idle to about 1500 or so by using some bailing wire or tape at the linkage.
    Just my 2 cents for the guy that thinks the (free) front ends here are a "disgrace".
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