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    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by jjohnson:
    Meatballman: A VGA LCD would be inappropriate for a non computer-based system; it would be a waste using such a display for ID3 information display. A small monochrome display such as a text or graphical LCD or VFD would do fine for their application.
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    he he...who the hell wants a non computer-based system Even the folks at empeg were smart enough to give their users access to the computer so that they can write their own custom apps.

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    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"> 4) As for the "toy" comment, the Rio products are very good but incorporate a computer-based mental model that may not be optimal for in car use</font>
    Rio products? Who said anything about Rio.
    That was a link to the NEO Mp3 player.
    Thats not affiliated with the RIO at all as far as I know.
    I don't think anyone here thinks a 64 MB Rio player is what they want.



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    What I don't get is why they are just developing this NOW? There are so many of these already on the market selling I can't imagine how someone can jump in now and expect to get ahead. Someone with "OEM" products that cannot be stated due to nondisclosure is hardly competition for the major players already out there.

    This board is a give-and-take system -- we all have questions from time to time, some even related to potential commercial products (like myself), but the important thing is we all give back and help each other out. So far all I can see from mp3designer is that he is using us to get our ideas and implement them in a commercial product. Why give out information to someone like that that we spent our own hours of R&D work on, many of us not being paid a dime to do it?

    I agree 100% with you meatballman -- computer based players are the future. There is only so much a proprietary, microcontroller-based system can do. To me and many of us, the prebuilt non-computer based units are the real "toys" here.

    As far the comment mp3designer said: "As for the 'toy' comment, the Rio products are very good but incorporate a computer-based mental model that may not be optimal for in car use.":

    Who's to say a computer-based mental model is inappropriate for in-car use? Computers are becoming more and more intertwined in peoples lives -- it seems to make sense to apply this model to the vehicle. Keep in mind that many of the potential buyers of an in-dash MP3 system are quite in step with technology. If someone can burn a CD full of MP3's, then they have some idea of how to work a computer-based system.

    I still think we are not the right audience to be asking questions about a product that is a "toy" compared to some of the systems we have built.
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    Uhh, although I do believe that this is a mp3car board, this "market research" should be left to one of the other boards on this web site.
    Also, the Neo car play is basically all anyone would need from a din-slot mp3 player. I really think that everyone would be doing something similar to what they have.

    Want to do something "more" however? try these things:
    1) cheaper. The Neo is a 19-year-old's toy priced for a middle aged executive.
    2) wireless transfers. Have a way to let the user wirelessly transfer mp3s so that wear and tear due to removing and inserting the harddrive does not mess with the harddrive.
    3) Visualizations. Have a complex BPM system that reads off the EQ and does a video-like thing much like the upper-end Kenwood systems.

    Of course none of these things help since #1 cancels out the other two. Not to mention that It will be so expensive nobody will want it aside from car magazine projects. :-P
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    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mp3designer:
    Note that these products of ours are OEM/automotive grade as opposed to the lesser aftermarket standars.</font>
    So OEM products are always better than aftermarket? Some of the worst products I've had have been OEM products. The first thing many people do when they get a new car is get rid of some of the OEM equipment -- exhaust, stereo system, etc.

    Personally I would trust a well-known computer company that has been building good computers for years if they decided to build a system for the car more than an OEM automotive product company that started making computers.
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    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mantis:
    Rio products? Who said anything about Rio.
    That was a link to the NEO Mp3 player.
    Thats not affiliated with the RIO at all as far as I know.
    I don't think anyone here thinks a 64 MB Rio player is what they want.

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    I believe he was referring to <a href="http://www.riohome.com/products/riocar.htm">this</a>, not the 64 MB Rio. This was the old empeg system.


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