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    XM Disaster!!!!!! - PLEASE, SOMEONE HELP!

    XM finally became available up here in the great white north back in december. I got an XMD1000 for xmas and immediately made a cable for it.

    The cable worked fine, and my xm was working fine for over a month.

    One day, i get in the car and boot up and its dead. Wont find any channels, nothing. I took the cable apart, and found one of the wires soldered to the din connector came right off. I wasn't sure if it was still soldered together or not before I took it apart, so I assumed this was the problem.

    Well it wasn't, and the unit still didn't work. I tested every pin for continuity, shorts,etc, couldn't find anything. I tested it on another computer in the house, didn't work. So, I assumed it was the unit itself.

    I went and bought another unit. Tried it out, same problem. Tried it on 2 computers, no difference. I am now assuming it must be the cable since this is a brand new unit. I must be missing something. I then returned the new unit.

    A user on here (Legarcondemerde) was selling his cables, so I purchased one. I received it and it was very nicely done (much much better/nicer then mine that's for sure!).

    I tried out the new cable, same problem. Tried it on another computer, same problem.

    Now, in between getting the new cable, I was messing with the cable and thought I found something else wrong (thought there was too much solder on one of the wires and it was making contact with another at the din connector). I fixed it, tested it out on my unit, nothing. Still doesn't work. So now at this point, I'm pointing the fingers back at the unit, or atleast elminate it.

    I couldn't find frodo's xmtest program, so I isntalled a serial port monitor. I have tried with Frodo's Satellite program, RoadRunner, a qbasic test app i found at xmfan.com and with timetrax. Each one had the same result:
    - opens the comport
    - sends initialization commands
    - keeps sending data to the com port but nothing is ever received.

    I shorted the TX&RX pins on the new cable, and bang right away I saw data being received. Based on this, the cable must be fine since it can send and receive no problem.

    I then used the same method to test the cable I had made and the stupid bloody thing works too!!!!

    So now I'm assuming again that the unit must be dead. I'm thinking with my luck, after I returned that new unit, I fixed the cable and the problem was the original unit AND the cable.

    So last night I went and bought a new unit again, and the same damn thing!!!! I can see the data being sent to the com port, but nothing is ever received.

    The unit is getting power, I have tested this multiple times. I've tried with multiple adaptors ranging from 100ma 12v to 800ma 12v. One thing I'm noticing though is that they are actually putting out close to 17v instead. However, when I made my first cable these are the same power adaptors I used to test it (successfully!!!).

    The port settings in the software is 100% correct (I can monitor it and see it coming back in when shorting pins on the cables). I even tried with TimeTrax which is supposed to automatically find it, and it said it couldn't find it.

    I also saw a suggestion from a user to see if I can see it powering up. I loaded up hyperterminal and connected directly to the com port the xmd unit was hoooked up to. Once the port was open, I plugged in the power and from his directions I should see data being sent from the XMD unit. I do not see anything.

    I'm really at a loss for what could be going on. I've tried multiple cables and multiple units on multiple computers all with the same result. I must be doing something stupidly wrong and just can't see it. I'm hoping someone can point it out and then proceed to make fun of me for being an idiot.

    Any help is greately appreciated. I am desperate and withering away without my xm radio

    Thanks,
    Chris
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    Maximum Bitrate pyros's Avatar
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    ok now have 47 views and not 1 suggestion???

    i just tried running the power right off the power supply at a constant 11.6x volts, still nothing.

    any ideas??
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    Problem is you've tried pretty much everything that is why no one is responding. Are you using the same antenna every time or are you utlizing the new antenna? I know it is past the point of verifying data through the com port and would not make sense but at this point you're down to trying things that don't make sense.

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    I would try and locate a "REAL" control head for the unit, and test it with that. See if the unit works. If it does, try with the cables, and see if it works. That is the only thing that seems to me that you have not tried.

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    hey man...if you are in Barrie some nite in the near future, PM me and I can test it out for ya. I have an XM setup on my CarPC. BTW, the one thing that I noticed that you didn't check, is in the device manager. Look in there for a serial mouse, and if it's there on the same COM port as your XMD, it won't work. Disable (not uninstall) the serial mouse, reboot, and all should be good again


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    Kamikaze just rung a bell in my head and I'll bet a mint he's right. It's been a while but I do remember XP finding a serial moue when first installing the XM Direct, disabling made it all right.

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    Hey guys...

    Thanks for taking the time to reply, much appreciated.

    I checked the serial mouse also, forgot to mention that. Wasn't part of the problem.

    Well, it IS WORKING now and I cannot believe why.

    #1 problem: Where I was placing the satellite receiver out my window on the ledge, had no reception! What baffles me about this is that this is the same spot where I did all my testing before with PERFECT reception. I moved the unit in to my car and put the car at end of my driveway and it WORKED (so the cable must have been dead the first time when it died and I must have repaired it in the debugging process...).

    #2 problem: If you do NOT have ANY reception, you will get NO RESPONSE whatsoever from the unit. EVEN when you power it up and monitor the com port or monitor activity through hyperterminal, you will not see anything at all. I never expected this or even thought about it. I assumed the power-on garbage that should show up would even if there was no reception (which I didn't know about anyway).

    Now I guess the question is, how is it possible to have zero reception where I had perfect reception before? Interference? Possible the satellites moved?? I thought when the satellites are in orbit, they always stay relative to the same place on the ground, so I'm not sure if this is even possible.

    Also, why would the unit not give ANY type of response with no reception (ie: not even power on) ??

    Again, thanks Troy, wiredwrx, and kamikazee for taking the time to reply.

    EDIT: Also, thanks Troy for the 'trying things that dont make sense' comment. Thats how I thought about the reception being the problem!
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    Specs: Epia M2-1000, 512mb ram, SB Audigy NX, Lilliput 7" Touchscreen, M2-ATX, DVD, 160gb HDD, gps, obdII, wifi, bluetooth, XM radio, HQCT and Logitech wireless gamepad.
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    i'm not sure on the reception bit, but it also could be as something as simple as a small kink in the antenna line that is making it not work. Or maybe before you only had ground signal and not sat signal and someone has installed a new antenna somewhere nearby that is causing interference.

    As far as the no output thing, i've noticed that on mine before, it may be a bug in the firmware, or just by design.

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    Could be possible when you tested you had a signal, maybe weak, and atmospheric conditions or solar flair is obstructing it now.

    Mother nature mostly works against signals

    On my scanner, many times I can pickup towns that are 40-50mi away, but some days/nights conditions will only allow me to hit 20mi away from my car. Solar conditions also play into that.

    On that note, my XM does the same thing. Sometimes the signal gets lost in my driveway (I have a line of pine trees that obstructs its view) and sometimes I get great signal.
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    jcdillin: I never thought about the kink in the antenna part, but I guess that wasn't the problem. I created a faq with all the crap I learned from this to hopefully help out a few others, i just added that and credited you for it, thanks!

    xbi0s: maybe, but it was showing full strength when I first tested. Atmospheric conditions, hrm could be. The weather was much different when I was first testing it..

    I created a FAQ of everything I learned and posted it here:
    http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/the-faq-emporium/71112-faq-xm-cable-xmd1000-debugging-faq-test-program-included.html#post761904

    Hopefully it helps out some others.

    Thanks again!
    Chris
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    Specs: Epia M2-1000, 512mb ram, SB Audigy NX, Lilliput 7" Touchscreen, M2-ATX, DVD, 160gb HDD, gps, obdII, wifi, bluetooth, XM radio, HQCT and Logitech wireless gamepad.
    Install Status: DONE

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