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    new micro sized ATX board from VIA

    It was posted on slashdot today...

    http://www.via.com.tw/en/VInternet/mini_itx.jsp

    170mm^2

    Would this be better for using then the Shuttle FV24?
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    Anyone know when it is due out and a supplier in the UK???
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    VIA came out with the mini-itx specifications a few months ago, and via announced the Eden platform the other month. http://www.via.com.tw/en/Products/eden.jsp for all the pretty pictures. As far as I know, there haven't been any manufacturers named (just that it has partners) or dates set, but it would make a very sweet car setup. and it is smaller than the flexatx fv24 (supposedly 50% smaller than matx).

    edit: correction:
    VIA Eden Embedded System Platform Availability
    The VIA Eden Platform VE1400, VE1500, VE2400, and VE2500 models are shipping in volume now; pricing information is available on request. The VIA Eden Platform VE1600 and VIA Eden ESP VE2600 models will be available in Q1, 2002.
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    On The Way...

    I contacted VIA about them many months ago and will be testing one shortly for MP3 Car use - its on the way from them. I think its about to be released big style, and from what you get it does look pretty amazing - its definitly smaller than the shuttle as its only 17cm x 17cm!

    Will post a link when I have finished testing the board - it's currently with UPS in Belgium awaiting shipping to the UK. The Via CPU used on them looks pretty good as it is very low current. I won't be able to show my case idea yet, but I can definitly post pictures of the board, as well as answer any ones questions on them.

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    yes yes, please do. I am very interested in this board. How much was it? I would like to know how it handles TV out.

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    Is it just me or does that cpu look photoshopped on there???

    The only problem i have with the FV24 is the onboard tv out. The only way to get a full screen tv out is to use an older bios and run in 800x600 resolution. That older bios has no video drivers for windows XP so i am stuck with windows ME. When trying to solve this problem I also learned that shuttles tech support is really bad. A forum member (mohabib) came up with solution before shuttle did. If this new board fixed the tv out video problem i might be interested.

    This new board does not have firewire and the fastest cpu available for it is an 800mhz. The fv24 supports a PIII 1gig.

    Does anybody know how much $?$?$?$?

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    Just spoken to VIA - they aren't being shipped yet - still in production - Looks like I'll have to wait! :-)
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    OK, I have no LCD but will try running the TV output into a TV and let you know what happens. As for price, I think its sub 100 but don't quote me on it. As for CPU's, don't expect it to be a speed demon - they are not built for that. They are built for low power consumption and low heat output - perfect for a car mp3 player as you don't even need a fan, just a large heatsink!

    Make a list of things you want me to test or look out for in this thread or by PM and I will make sure to include them in my review. I may review it performance wise, but this is unlikely as the c3 processor is known already not to be a speed demon.

    Will post pictures and a review as soon as I get some ram and the board arrives (monday). I couldn't tell you how much I paid for my board because you'd probably throw me off the forum...
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    Originally posted by Michael Szilagyi
    Is it just me or does that cpu look photoshopped on there???

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    Does anybody know how much $?$?$?$?

    mike
    its actually because it uses an enhanced ball grid array (ebga), much like a chipset or gpu, which means its part of the board, not socketed, so it cant be upgraded. And via quotes their eden platform 1000 series at around $40 and their 2000 platform series around $50.
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    $40 - $50 for that mobo and cpu(since its integrated)??? Is this correct?

    By the way, that board looks to me to be the exact size and form factor as the FV24. I might be wrong, but it dosent look any smaller to me.
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