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    Exclamation Hard Drives in cold weather?

    Hay does aneone use harddrives in their mp3 players anywere were it gets below freezing?
    I live in Cleveland Ohio and want to keep my mp3 of hard drive, instead of cdrom. The problem is harddrives at no ment to be ran at temperatures under freezing. Does anyone have any info on this? Are the hard drives prone to crashing? Is there any way to pre-heat them?
    As to getting to hot It runs without a problem. I have 2 3.5" harddrives mounted with grommets in a full size desctop case (3 5" bays). Workes fine for hours with only the power supply fan and restricted airflow(bad posisioning in stereo system stand).

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    Yes. I installed mine in Jan of this year, in the middle of a Canadian winter. The player worked fine the whole time. I started it up in the morning and let it boot while I was warming up my car. I also started it up in the cold several times per day, all without a problem. The only real worry is condensation forming when you open the door. But, if your case has a good fan and your HD is fairly warm then it shouldn't be an issue.

    I am from London, Ontario. Interstingly enough, my hard drive failed when I was in Cleveland in June for the 2000 DeLorean Auto Show. However, I attribute this failure to a drive manufacturing defect in the control board, as there was no indication of physical damage to the disc surface when it failed. That said, Cleveland may be a bad place for hard drives :-) By the way, Quantum replaced my drive on warrenty...

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    Actually, condensation will NOT be a problem unless you track all kinds of snow into the car. In the winter, the air gets cold as we all know (some of us all too wel). As the air gets cold, it loses its capacity to hold water in suspension. Therfore, the relative humidity is much lower than in the warmer months.

    The problem remains however; if you track snow into your vehicle. Simple solution to this invloves turning up the heat and leaving your windows open just a crack .. (the humidity will escape to the cold environment)

    Moral of the story. Consensation is almost NEVER a problem! Esp. because distilled (condensed) water doesnt conduct electricity.

    Oh sure, you could get hyper anal and say well, what about ionization or oxidation causing ions to be disolved into solution thuc causing an electrolytic capacity? I say bah to you! In my past experiences as a fanatical overclocker with 2^x peltier units, condensation has never caused a problem (even though I insulated the cpu etc. I did wet test the system).

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    That sounds cool!
    I'm not really worried about condensation. I have face plates over all three bays, I might consider making a fan face plate just for the summer. Without air blowing over the hdds there is a very less chance of it happening.
    Hay do ata 66's, like the 10.2Gig Quantum, get all to much hotter than and older 1.2 gig segate or somthin?

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    nicksmurf: Yes, ATA66 drives to run hotter than normal drives. Note that you probably don't even need ATA66 capability as all you are doing is plying MP3s.

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    Player: Pentium 166MMX, Amptron 598LMR MB w/onboard Sound, Video, LAN, 10.2 Gig Fujitsu Laptop HD, Arise 865 DC-DC Converter, Lexan Case, Custom Software w/Voice Interface, MS Access Based Playlists
    Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
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