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    I have a new 2006 Forester 2.5XT (Silver)

    That's what I thought about the VIA processors. Very cheap, reliable, and cool running, but without a lot of performance. Perfect for your basic car computer.

    I might want to do some non-basic stuff though, like DVDShrink, emulators, pc games, and other stuff, so I am probably going to go for Core-Duo or the 35W X2 when it comes out. My entire budget will be about $3500 - that's how much I'll probably get for selling my old Camry, but that includes all of the other modifications that I want to do (window tinting, dynamat, amps, subs, speakers, power distribution, headrest LCDs, etc). Engine modifications will come further down the line.

    I figure $250 for tinting, $250 for dynamat, and the $180 that I just spent on the center dash piece leaves me with about $2800 for the computer, screens, sub, amps, speaker, and power distribution stuff. I should be able to put together a decent system for this much

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    F-XT, nice. You a memeber of any Suby boards?
    The core duo is a great proc as is the 3800+ X2 esp. if you got the budget.

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    I'm not a member of any Scooby boards, although I want to get into it a little more. Subaru's are so addicting! I'm taking an auto shop class this summer, then I'll start my collection of tools (floor jack, torque wrench, ratchets, clamps... it all adds up!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by vihila
    I'm not a member of any Scooby boards, although I want to get into it a little more. Subaru's are so addicting! I'm taking an auto shop class this summer, then I'll start my collection of tools (floor jack, torque wrench, ratchets, clamps... it all adds up!)
    Please don't take this the wrong way, but how old are you? Working on your car is very gratifying, well except when it doesn't go right. Then you want to kill everything . Tools add up quick like you said, but you can get a good deal on jacks and jack stands. Torque wrench will be expensive if you buy a name brand, snapon etc. I also reccommend an 18" craftsman breaker bar, the best 20 some bucks I ever spent, makes stuck bolts a walk in the park.

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    The main difference between an AM2 processor and your standard Socket 754 or 939 is the front side bus speed and then your power comsumption. The AM2 and even the Turion 64 consume much much less power than the Pentium M in a side by side comparison. At a recent tech conference in Chicago they had all of the specs side by side with the Pentium chips and it was a huge difference.

    Would you want an AM2 over the Pentium M or Turion 64? Thats your call, technology is a premium and todays technology will be tomorrows trash. A socket 754 or 939 is in its last set of series. I beleive the runs will go another year or so. AMD has announced that they expect the AM2 chipset to be the standard for around 3 years until a new model comes out.

    Is a Turion a bad investment? No, we still see Socket A processors everywhere so the lifecycle of the chips isn't going to be dead.

    Do you need that much processor power? Thats your call. Very doubtful if you NEED the AM2 spec over a Socket 754 or 939 (or even Socket A for that matter).



    Map out your needs, then your wants, and then your wishes. From there we could better gauge the type of computer you will need. Heck, consider upgrading your desktop to the AM2 and taking your old desktop board/cpu as the carPC. Would you spend more money on your car audio setup than you would on your surround sound for the home?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentbob343
    Please don't take this the wrong way, but how old are you? Working on your car is very gratifying, well except when it doesn't go right. Then you want to kill everything . Tools add up quick like you said, but you can get a good deal on jacks and jack stands. Torque wrench will be expensive if you buy a name brand, snapon etc. I also reccommend an 18" craftsman breaker bar, the best 20 some bucks I ever spent, makes stuck bolts a walk in the park.
    I'm 25, heheh. I probably don't sound like it though do I? The "auto shop class" is offered through the City's Adult Education program. Actually, the main reason I haven't gotten any tools is because I don't have any space at my house. I have 3 roomates, one of who lives in the garage. This means that all of my possessions must fit in my bedroom. This summer, the roomate who lives in the garage is going to be moving out, and just using the room for storage, so I can have a little more room for tools at that point.

    I have done a little bit of car stuff, like change my oil, helped someone install an exhaust, and helped install sway bars, but I still need to learn a lot. Especially when it comes to diagnosis of engine problems. In fact, I was considering keeping my old Camry and trying to fix it up myself, but I need the money to buy the tools! After buying that Subaru, I'm broke! And I make $900 car payments! (Ouch... 2 years, 0% financing ) It's OK though, because my rent is only $500 and I make good money programming computers.

    I know about car stereos from my old buddy who installed them for people. I kept on trying to convince him to build a carputer for his Audi S4, but he had already invested too much in his Kenwood DVD player and such. Recently I talked to him and he said he wished he would have listened to me. Oh well. He's the one who showed me all the power distribution stuff like caps, fuses and distribution blocks. And also the importance of dynamatting.

    The breaker bar is a great suggestion, I'll keep that in mind. What other tools do you recommend besides the obvious? Do you have a Subie also??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash-X
    The main difference between an AM2 processor and your standard Socket 754 or 939 is the front side bus speed and then your power comsumption. The AM2 and even the Turion 64 consume much much less power than the Pentium M in a side by side comparison. At a recent tech conference in Chicago they had all of the specs side by side with the Pentium chips and it was a huge difference.

    Would you want an AM2 over the Pentium M or Turion 64? Thats your call, technology is a premium and todays technology will be tomorrows trash. A socket 754 or 939 is in its last set of series. I beleive the runs will go another year or so. AMD has announced that they expect the AM2 chipset to be the standard for around 3 years until a new model comes out.

    Is a Turion a bad investment? No, we still see Socket A processors everywhere so the lifecycle of the chips isn't going to be dead.

    Do you need that much processor power? Thats your call. Very doubtful if you NEED the AM2 spec over a Socket 754 or 939 (or even Socket A for that matter).



    Map out your needs, then your wants, and then your wishes. From there we could better gauge the type of computer you will need. Heck, consider upgrading your desktop to the AM2 and taking your old desktop board/cpu as the carPC. Would you spend more money on your car audio setup than you would on your surround sound for the home?
    Yeah their tech tour is coming here later this month. While I haven't attended in person, I can say that everything I read on various hardware sites show the Pentium M consuming less, unsure of Core Duo specs.
    CPU TDP
    Intel Pentium M 765 (2.13GHz) 22W
    Intel Pentium 4 520 (2.8GHz) 84W
    Intel Pentium 4 570 115W
    AMD Athlon 64 67W
    Even if you substitute the HE version at 35watts......X2 series is great and 35watts isn't alot so either way he goes performance will be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vihila
    I'm 25, heheh. I probably don't sound like it though do I? The "auto shop class" is offered through the City's Adult Education program. Actually, the main reason I haven't gotten any tools is because I don't have any space at my house. I have 3 roomates, one of who lives in the garage. This means that all of my possessions must fit in my bedroom. This summer, the roomate who lives in the garage is going to be moving out, and just using the room for storage, so I can have a little more room for tools at that point.

    I have done a little bit of car stuff, like change my oil, helped someone install an exhaust, and helped install sway bars, but I still need to learn a lot. Especially when it comes to diagnosis of engine problems. In fact, I was considering keeping my old Camry and trying to fix it up myself, but I need the money to buy the tools! After buying that Subaru, I'm broke! And I make $900 car payments! (Ouch... 2 years, 0% financing ) It's OK though, because my rent is only $500 and I make good money programming computers.

    I know about car stereos from my old buddy who installed them for people. I kept on trying to convince him to build a carputer for his Audi S4, but he had already invested too much in his Kenwood DVD player and such. Recently I talked to him and he said he wished he would have listened to me. Oh well. He's the one who showed me all the power distribution stuff like caps, fuses and distribution blocks. And also the importance of dynamatting.

    The breaker bar is a great suggestion, I'll keep that in mind. What other tools do you recommend besides the obvious? Do you have a Subie also??
    Ahhh, ok when I heard shop class I thought of high school shop Then I thought what high school kid can that can afford to buy the F-XT would buy it over an EVO/WRX etc. Alas, I don't a Suby yet, but my brother has an 02 WRX that he will most likely trade in for an 07. We've done some small stuff to it, steering rack bushings, shifter bushings, etc.

    I drive an old 1st gen Protege that I've done a some samll stuff to. Converted from drum to disc, rebuilt calipers, Ford Racing ZX2 Struts w/ H&R MX-3 springs. Dual core all metal radiator, stock is single core with crappy platic endtanks that like to blow up. Assorted poly bushings, new rear sway bar, rear MX-3 tie-bar, etc. Tons of maintanence type stuff as well. I've done all of it with common hand tools, only tools I've needed that I don't own were spring compressors and ball joint pullers, but you can rent them from any auto shop. The biggest help when working on your car is to get the factory service manual for your car and join a forum with people that have knowledge about your vehicle. For Subarus I recommend NASIOC and I-club is alright, but declining steadily, IMO.

    My plan is to keep the car in running to use as my daily driver after I get out of school. I also want to swap in a rebuilt DOHC engine and G series trans, it's a little more power, but mainly my engine is a little worn. Once my I pay off my loans I plan to buy a 96 Impreza L and start converting it to an STi.

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    Everything I have read about Core Duo says it runs at about 24 Watts. This seems like it is the best performance/watt ratio that is out there. I will probably end up using this with the Commell LV-677 mini-itx board.

    The Core-Duo is a pricey solution, $315 for the mobo and $315 for the T2500 ($425 for the T2600). I will also need some sort of reciever or digital processor to take advantage of the optical audio. Any reccommendations?

    The Albatron Mini-ITX Socket AM2 motherboard that I mentioned will probably cost a lot less than the Commell, but it will still be an expensive solution compared to a pentium M or a VIA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vihila
    Everything I have read about Core Duo says it runs at about 24 Watts. This seems like it is the best performance/watt ratio that is out there. I will probably end up using this with the Commell LV-677 mini-itx board.

    The Core-Duo is a pricey solution, $315 for the mobo and $315 for the T2500 ($425 for the T2600). I will also need some sort of reciever or digital processor to take advantage of the optical audio. Any reccommendations?

    The Albatron Mini-ITX Socket AM2 motherboard that I mentioned will probably cost a lot less than the Commell, but it will still be an expensive solution compared to a pentium M or a VIA.
    Yeah all of the nice Mini-ITX boards, P4, P-M, Duo, AMD, etc cost upper $200 to $350. That is the biggest downside to them and like you pointed out you spend $300 for the board and another $300 for the CPU. Hence why I would buy a used Pentium M on ebay for $60 and a $100 open box micro-ATX motheboard from newegg, I'm cheap .

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