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Thread: Turn-off pop question

  1. #1
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    Turn-off pop question

    I mailed David Navone (www.davidnavone.com) this question:


    >is it possible to find something that could keep my computer
    >running for a few secs when turning it off? so that the amp would loose
    >its power before the comp even when they are connected to the same switch?
    >
    >Thanks in advance
    >
    >LT


    And this was his answer:
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    Hello LT,
    You can use a simple diode (1N4001) in series with the amplifier turn-on
    lead. (The band side of the diode goes towards the amplifier.)Then place an
    electrolytic capacitor with the + at the band side of the diode and connect
    the - side of the cap to the car's chassis.

    The larger the cap value, the longer the amp will remain on. Start with
    4700 mfd (@ 16 volts or more)..... Increase it up to 100,000 mfd if necessary.

    The cap will hold the turn-on voltage for a few seconds.... and the diode
    isolates the amp from the rest of the car's electrical circuitry.
    Dave




    I guess he mixed up the amp and the comp, since he explained how to get the amp to stay on for a few secs, but i guess it would be the same if i connected a relay to the +12 to my psu and used it to hold the turn-on voltage for the comp for a few seconds..

    But, since im not into electronics, could anyone be so kind to explain whats really happening here? what does a capasitor and a diode do? And would this work to eliminate the turn-off pop?

    Thanks in advance

    LT

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    Re: Turn-off pop question

    the capacitor when it gets power charges up..... (sorta like a battery).... when u cut the power to the amp the capacitor will discharge into the amp's turnon lead to keep the amp running for a little longer. The diode stops the discharging from going back into the rest of the cars electricial system and discharging quicker and most likely not keeping the amp going.....


    you can do a similar thing with a relay, but the relay's coil will discharge the capacitor quicker than a amp's turn-on lead..... so a larger capacitor would be need to achive the same turn on times....
    Project - GAME OVER :(

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    What magnetik said is correct. What you will want to do in this case is to use a relay on the power line for the psu and put the diode in the coil power line. When you turn off the switch it should keep the relay energized for a bit.. altho the time could be VERY small (read un noticeably fast ) depending on the on the size of your cap. If you use this relay then you shouldent have to have the diode or the connection to frame. Just put the cap across the coil leads of the relay making shure to observe the polarity because the switch will isolate the positive side of the cap when it is turned to the off position. NOTE: polarity and voltage handeling of the cap is very important in this case make shure that both are correct for this application the cap you will probally want to be 16v.
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