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    power carputer indoors

    ok, this is my theory, i have a m2-atx and i figure if i get one of them 120AC to 12DC converters i could plug the positve and ground/negative wires from the M2-ATX into that, i conected bullet leads onto the end of my M2-ATX for easy removal, i would do the the same to the converter.

    I am aware i would have to have no jumper on the M2-ATX in order to bypas the startup/shutdown controlls (the white wire)

    would this work? it would be cool cause then i could bring my movies/music/games wherever i go in a stylish small computer.

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    as long as you have 15amps, then yes. which I would doubt, as most standard AC-DC covreters are not that high.

    The alternative is to use an ATX supply, as that will have more than enough juice.

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    what if i hack apart a laptop power brick and make that work?

    a normal psu is not the route im looking at, im looking for something simple that i could just walk into a realtives house, quickly plug everything in and watch a movie.

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    Get a MicroPSU and then wire the +12 (yellow) to constant and ignition, and ground (black) to ground.

    Then you can make a nifty little box around the PSU.
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    ok, so ur saying if i take any normal computer psu (wich from what i could gather a microPSU was just a small normal one) and take any one of the +12V (red?) plug that into the power&ignition (red&white) line, then i take a ground (black) and plug that into the ground/negative (black) on the M2-ATX it will work?

    im presuming i have to short the power switch (green?) line on the ATX conector.

    maybe this would work? http://www.logicsupply.com/product_i...roducts_id/454
    although it appears to be rated at 10 amps, so i guess it won't work

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    Quote Originally Posted by brendan View Post
    ok, so ur saying if i take any normal computer psu (wich from what i could gather a microPSU was just a small normal one) and take any one of the +12V (red?) plug that into the power&ignition (red&white) line, then i take a ground (black) and plug that into the ground/negative (black) on the M2-ATX it will work?

    im presuming i have to short the power switch (green?) line on the ATX conector.

    maybe this would work? http://www.logicsupply.com/product_i...roducts_id/454
    although it appears to be rated at 10 amps, so i guess it won't work
    Yes a MicroPSU is like a shuttle PC's PSU. Small.
    Something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103143


    The Red wires are 5v, so not those. You need the yellow ones which are 12v.

    If you will be putting your PC into a case of some sort and want to leave the jumpers on for smart PSU mode, then you will need to connect both the +12v constant and the +12v ignition wire on the M2. So if you put a little switch into that PSU's case, you can flick that on/off for a +12v wire to the ign. That way when you flick it on, it turns on. Flick it off, it gracefully shuts down, and then off. For the constant +12v, use a yellow wire direct. Then ground (black on the PSU) to the M2's ground. Chop off therest of the wires for a clean look.

    That PSU can handle 16A on the +12v rail, which is what you want. Most small PSU's have low +12v rails and usually only 1 rail unlike desktop PSU's which usually have a minimum of 2. My desktop has 4 independant 12v rails, but it is huge, loud, and heavy.
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    wow, thank you, i understand this now.

    1 final question tho, will 14amps on the 12V line work or not? is it imperitive i use 15A or more?

    its just that the 14A one is $15 and the other ones are above $25

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    Well the M2 is 160W. At 12v, that is 13.3Amps. PSU's are never truly efficient, and the cheap ones always give crap ratings that are off by a couple of amps anyways because they can test peak amps for a short burst, not sustained. That is why a good 400W PSU can be $50-$80, and a cheap one can be $25 with nearly the same documented specs.

    You probably wont use the full 160W of the M2, but if you do, or upgrade, why spend $15 and then another $25? It is only $10 to protect your $1000 computer. Splurge a little frugle style!

    So the cheapest 14A ones may not supply enough. Just use the better one. Might be able to find one on eBay for cheaper.
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    ok, i got myself a power suply (350-400 watt, it doesn't say on it, it's for P4 style mobos) and have tried testing it with my multimeter, it is rated to measure (im guessing) up to 10a (beside the 10a selector it says: 10 ADC 10A max UNFUSED)

    anyway, on the 5v line i get 11.3amps (red) then i try it on the 12v (yellow) line, and it quickly spikes a reading and gives up trying to measure anything (it probably goes to high) ive seen it spike up to 19.7 before it stops reading, also the testing leads start getting really hot.

    im presuming this thing will be good enough, and what will happen if it doesn't provide enough amps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brendan View Post
    ok, i got myself a power suply (350-400 watt, it doesn't say on it, it's for P4 style mobos) and have tried testing it with my multimeter, it is rated to measure (im guessing) up to 10a (beside the 10a selector it says: 10 ADC 10A max UNFUSED)

    anyway, on the 5v line i get 11.3amps (red) then i try it on the 12v (yellow) line, and it quickly spikes a reading and gives up trying to measure anything (it probably goes to high) ive seen it spike up to 19.7 before it stops reading, also the testing leads start getting really hot.

    im presuming this thing will be good enough, and what will happen if it doesn't provide enough amps?
    If there aren't enough amps, then the system will freeze whenever it needs more power such as high CPU/GPU load.
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