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    Thanks, I was just reading that part in the manual thanks to you! Definitely planning to enable that feature. There are so many features I want to change, I may have to locate a bitwriter (or figure out how to build one.) I may be able to put a list together and bring it to the installers to do it for me, but where is the fun in that?

    The siren output is going to be one of the triggers. I amy skip the additional switches now that I see some of the features that are built in (but disabled) to this alarm. Definitely a few things are getting rearranged in my plan, now.

    BTW, you mentioned that I could get a two way remote for $60. Is this a seperate module as well as the remote? It doesn't look like from the manual that two-way IS built in. Of course, if I am monitoring all the signals the extra module would be monitoring, I might be able to handle that part my self (via the boost mobile phone sending SMS to my main cell phone.)

    Definitely MUCH more information to work with now. Thank you so much for your help!

    Scott

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    Extremeproaudio,
    Couple of questions for you (since you seem to know quite a bit about my system) First of all, is it possible to get a remote with more than the 4 buttons to use my extra channels (without having to press combinations?) and would a remote from another manufacturer work with my system if I trained it?

    Thanks again,
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    How about move? Seems like it be less expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RetroPlayer View Post
    Yeah. Good alternative, but it looks ghetto. My car is very luxurious looking. I do not want to add anything ghetto to it. If it came down to that, I would just skip the PC altogether. But, again, I am not going to let some punks terrorize me into not having the system I want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calipso View Post
    Hate to tell you, I don't think anything you do to a Hyundai Sonata can make it luxurious looking.
    Well, I guess that is a matter of opinion. Haven't seen anyone be disappointed yet. Nice try though.

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    Ok,

    If you are going to upgrade your Alarm system,

    Why not use the trigger output to activate a circuit to start the recording process?

    And yes, i have run a Car PC for a week off a Optima Yellow Top Battery and that was @ 100% Load

    and if that wasnt enough to convince you of the power of the batteries, I have one in my 1973 Chrysler, with my old battery after about 10 cranks, the battery would start to die (Exide) now with the Yellow Top, I can have my System as Full Volume, my Thermo's on Constantly and still have enough power to keep cranking the engine for 2 days
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRVJ245 View Post
    Ok,

    If you are going to upgrade your Alarm system,

    Why not use the trigger output to activate a circuit to start the recording process?
    I am going to do that. Already repeated that like 3 times!

    Quote Originally Posted by MRVJ245 View Post
    And yes, i have run a Car PC for a week off a Optima Yellow Top Battery and that was @ 100% Load

    and if that wasnt enough to convince you of the power of the batteries, I have one in my 1973 Chrysler, with my old battery after about 10 cranks, the battery would start to die (Exide) now with the Yellow Top, I can have my System as Full Volume, my Thermo's on Constantly and still have enough power to keep cranking the engine for 2 days
    It isn't that I am NOT convinced, it is that there are numerous reasons NOT to use the carpc. The power issue is 'barely' on the list, simply because there are numerous ways around that.

    I'll repeat the most important one: Because if they manage to get away with the carpc, then they get away with the evidence. Not to mention that the minute they cut the wires to remove it, all video is now gone during the most important part. Add to the fact that if the software or OS crashes, bogs down, etc.. your security is now completely gone. And another one - your security system is right there in front of them, easy to get to.

    Though, these batteries might be nice to keep the entire standalone security system running, but would be way overkill. I won't know my total power requirements until the whole thing is put together, but I am willing to bet I could grab a small gel cell (used in emergency exit lights or house alarm backups) that would allow me to keep everything powered. With a smart power system, it would probably run for weeks if not months parked with multiple trips to the system.

    Please, people, stop suggesting using the carpc. It is such a bad idea. A terrible idea. At best, using the carpc to supplement the system might be ok, but doing the entire thing is just NOT an option. I had already thought of it in the beginning and realized how bad of an idea it was! The very first concept was just going to use USB webcams, or a 4 channel USB capture thing.

    (Not saying YOU were suggesting that, MRVJ245 )

    Thanks,
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    I do agree that he most reliable way to do the video record thing is with a stand alone dvr, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a bad & terrible idea doing it with the PC... maybe in your case so you still have a video capture even if the pc is removed...

    I have always planned on doing a 4 way video monitoring in my install, but unlike you, I plan on doing this only after everything else is done... it's last on my priority list really, but I'm not in such a volatile parking situation as you either....

    even so, I am very concerned about security, & I know what it feels like to have your **** jacked, I rely on my 2 way spread spectrum alarm system for security, & I am very confident in the fact that my vehicle is covered 24/7 over 95% of the time....

    as far as running out on an attempt... if someone was violating my mother or my sister, I'd run out & protect them to the best of my ability... violating my car is not much different really, & you can be damn sure that if my system is tripped, there time is limited before I am there... now I'm not trying to make believe that I'm going to come out blazing, but I'll be there...

    on the other hand though, I do know what it is to deal with the element your up against... a crackhead & a lot of young thugs are pretty dangerous... the most dangerous person is a person who don't give a **** about you or anyone, & has no fear, even for themselves.... but that don't mean you can't chase them away without putting yourself in danger... a really loud wailing siren will help... in your situation I'd keep a few of those can'd blast horns around.... if you ran out with one of those blaring & yelling get away from my car, I seriously doubt they'd do anything but run the other way.... but they'd learn that your car is not to be screwed with....

    I have a system set up in my bedroom that when I put my remote receiver on it's base, it will ring a really loud alarm in the house to alert or even wake me if my car is tampered with, & I would never park more than a block or 2 away, so I'm always within range...

    in the end I think your video ideas are great,it's just that it's a lot easier to plan & collect some parts than it is to get a fully functional reliable system up & running,

    here's to hoping that you have the dedication & resources to actually get this all done to your plans...

    & Oh yeah, as far as those alarm scanner lights... theives look for them as a tipoff that the car belongs to some kid that has a thing for car electronics... it's kinda like a becon... just like rims or a big wing, & is a good way to add a big targeting beacon to your ride.... don't do it...

    the best way to not be a target is to not look like a target..., I love custom rims as much as the next guy, but on a streetcar it's not very wise.... factory wheels will go a long way towards keeping the vultures off... if you must have the bling then be prepaired to step up & defend your ownership... you better not be walking through a hood all iced out if you ain't prepaired to protect it, your car is no different...

    I park my minivan on the streets of brooklyn, oueens & all over nyc really, & never had any problems,dispite the fact that my system is probably worth as much as the car itself at this point, but it only has a set of factory chrome wheels & no one looks twice at it, if I had the black assanti's on there that I realy want, it'd probably be a bit different though... I don't want to make my vehicle any more of a target than I have too, so I hold back on the wheels....

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    All good points. However, I really do stand by my statement. If the video is for security, the worst place to put it is in the carpc. Unless you have your carpc installed somewhere noone can get to, they'll just follow the wiring, trust me, I know. My last computer was under my seat. You couldn't tell there was a computer in there, and if they hadn't followed the wires through my center console they probably would have just ran off with the screen and DVD player.

    I will definitely take your advice about the scanner. Now that I know I can set my alarm to passive arming, it wouldn't be necessary anyway. The main reason I purchased it was so that I could see from my house if I had remembered to arm it. But, it was for that very reason I didn't like the idea. Others could easily see that I hadn't armed it, especially if they were scoping out cars before and were used to seeing it.

    So, setting up the passive arming, and upgrading to two-way takes care of that. Since I am putting this system in anyway, I will probably do the 2-way myself.

    Defending my family or friends, to me, is totally different than defending my car. I have put my life on the line several times before for friends and family, I would never do that for my car. Afterall, it is only a machine. And that is what I have insurance for. Different folks, different strokes, I guess. The blaring personal alarm thing is an interesting idea, though. Of course, if my regular alarm siren (120dB) and the siren I will install in the vents (120-130dB high pitched) as well as the flashing strobe doesn't scare them off, I am not sure how effective it would be. These people are exactly as you described. My little brother used to run with a gang. Several in his crew would do **** like armed robberies just to get caught and go to prison. That life was better than what they had on the streets. And if they had to kill someone to do it, I am sure they would not have hesitated. It just meant a longer stay. Thankfully, my bro was smarter than that and got out of it. He's now married with kids and a good job.

    BTW, my car exterior as of right now is stock. There is no desire to "rice it out." At most, I may add a trunk lip and possibly a roof spoiler (the back end is a little boring.) Maybe a billet grille. The rest of it fits the car just as it is.

    Oddly enough, when my car was broken into, my neighbor had a Porche boxter and another had a riced out eclipse GST. Neither of these were broken into. I think an ARMED alarm (and a little better inidication, but not quite a scanner) would be enough to deter them unless they knew for sure what they might get. That is why a blank panel or fake faceplate may work. Even if they are curious what might be under it, they wouldn't know for sure. We'll just have to see.

    If none of it works, I file the police report, pay my deductable and start over. The only thing not so easily replaced is the time it took me to install everything and set it all up.

    BTW, Turbo, you would probably have a good opinion about this:

    If the dash were modified in a way that it fused the entire system to the dash and made it look stock, would that be a deterrent? I mean, it seems like it would make it look less valuable (stock), too much trouble to remove, and would work only in that model car. It would be kind of ironic if just leaving it right out in the open was the best deterrent of all!


    Scott

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    I do believe that sometimes having it look stock will be somewhat of a deterrent, but then again there now stealing stock navi's now out by me... I had to redo a few escalade dashes already, so then again, your dummy faceplate may be a better deterrent...

    in the end, a thief wants to find something they can remove & get away with, & then be able to sell... if they don't know theres something there they won't steal it, & if they think they won't get away with it, they won't steal it.....

    good luck with it

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