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    Agere BluOnyx Wifi/Bluetooth/USB/SDIO pocket storage server

    I had the pleasure to meet with Agere during CES 2007 and they showed me this little thing. I think it would be of interest to MP3Car owners and enthusiasts.

    Here's the Agere BluOnyx article.

    Mentioned therein is my idea of a concept car for the device. Thoughts?

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    In the interview were members of the development team for this product. Since it is not out to production yet, they're interested in any feedback the the target market may want to offer. So: Feedback?

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    I think it's a pretty cool little toy.

    If it had it's own video player it would completely kick-***. But it's just a content server.
    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
    How about the Wiki?



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    Quote Originally Posted by DarquePervert View Post
    I think it's a pretty cool little toy.

    If it had it's own video player it would completely kick-***. But it's just a content server.
    It's intended to be a mass storage companion to your existing media devices, whether they are mobile phones, portable media players, Internet Tablets, or even car PCs. When more details emerge, I will post them.

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    Sorry but this product will be a stillborn I believe. The main reason is it's not WiFi, but Bluetooth. It doesn't even say what version. I'll assume 1.2. The native radio frequency for BT 1.x is 1Mbs, and after protocol over head it's ~763kbps. Very abysmal. You really can't stream video down it at all. Plus, anything that will be streaming from it will most likely be going over IP, which adds more overhead as another stack is running, and slows things down. Unless it's using A2DP profile or something - but that's for the other direction, the endpoints.

    There's no excuse for it not being WiFi these days. All good smartphones (yeah not you Treo) have WiFi. 11 or 54Mbps or 763k? yeah... Not to metion poor range for Bluetooth, and how speed quickly drops off.

    Your use cases:

    * Streaming more media to your mobile phone than Flash cards can hold.
    - These are getting pretty large, up to 8mb. After that, the size of your HD versions approach an iPod which begs why you aren't buying that...
    * Synchronizing your recorded TV from your Media Center so you can watch it on your Smartphone.
    Which you have to walk in range of your PC that hopefully has bluetooth, and some sync software, wait, walk in range of the phone, and wait some more... and hope you don't forget. Or have your WiFi phone do it directly automatically (because your WiFi covers the entire house not just near your desk)
    * Sharing the media from your mobile phone with others.
    - Again, Why not connect directly?
    * Carting your save-game files from your home to your friend's.
    - last I recall people use this thing called the "internet" to share data far away.
    * Bridging the gap between your cell phone and your gaming device.
    - How many gaming systems have bluetooth?
    * Use in an automobile permitting all passengers to enjoy different media on different devices. (take a look at the Nokia promotional Mustang below. They have N800 Internet Tablets in the rear seat headrests. The BluOnyx could serve each of them different content.)
    - Again, divide that bluetooth speed by 2, and you'll be lucky to stream any video at all. Especially when 3G is faster I believe.
    * A medical or engineering office storing client files in the office and hand them to the next "on call" employee.
    - Again... "networks" with real servers and real backup that won't get lost.

    Sorry to be so harsh, but like Sun says, "the network is the computer". And no, not sneakernet, which is what this is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phylar View Post
    Sorry but this product will be a stillborn I believe. The main reason is it's not WiFi, but Bluetooth.
    Can you re-state some of these arguments, knowing that:
    • It DOES have wifi
    • It has Bluetooth too
    • And an SD / SDIO card slot
    • And USB host mode
    • And runs embedded VxWorks or Linux

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    I was a bit confused as the page you linked didn't state it had WiFi anywhere, despite your first post.

    Having WiFi helps alot. I assumed it had USB mass media mode. Still, it seems just an extra device to carry around and unnessicary middle piece that just makes it harder often then connecting things directly.

    Also, for streaming to cellphones: Most cellphone bluetooth stacks won't be a client in a A2DP or Headset profile. You couldn't just stream directly that way. You'd have to have files pushed over and saved (but that's not streaming) or use IP over bluetooth and NFS... ONLY if it was a smartphone. Some random bluetooth phone on the market could NOT recieve an audio or video stream from this device. Tell me if I'm wrong.

    But if the smartphone had WiFi... well for synching media, youd have to ask yourself why aren't the just synching directly to their Media Center, which is more convinient, and if they have more than 4 or 8gb (I believe they have 8gb sd and 4gb mini SD cards now) you'd wonder if they would just get another card to hold that data, or get a digital audio player more suited for the situation.

    As for the gaming situations, I have no idea what this would hold on there. Saved games? so people would go over to a friends house, play a game, and come back and want that saved game on there... only if they have the game back at home, and if they did, why aren't they bringing the whole system to hook together and play, or just $10 flash media which is cheap and all the recent game system support?

    People don't want to carry around extra devices. That's one reason the iPhone is rediculously hyped.

    Hmm it runs linux.... oh It could control my Roomba then! oh and another use case: hide the thing in a lamp in your house, and put illegal stuff on there, so when the cops bust you, they don't find it! wooo lol

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