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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster View Post
    Awesome post #1.
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    a carpc isn't for everyone... the biggest mistake I see with carpc's in general is the guys who want a carpc because they think it'll be cheaper than a multimedia head unit... that is the single worse reason to consider a carpc in my opinion... a carpc is not an appliance, it is not a substitute for an appliance & it is not a multimedia head unit. it may eventually be built well enough to kinda emulate a multimedia head unit, if you don't understand the difference there then a carpc is NOT for you.

    a carpc takes dedication & tinkering & learning & it will cost you... it will cost you way more than any multimedia head unit, in money sometimes, but more so in time & dedication & frustration... much the same way many good things in life have high costs for success.

    if you don't have tons of patience then a carpc is NOT for you

    if you don't handle frustration & trial & error well then a carpc is NOT for you.

    if you can't handle spending many many hours learning & then learning some more then a carpc is NOT for you.

    if you think your going to get it right the first time & just put it in & it works, then a carpc may NOT be for you.

    if you can't accept the fact that you will wind up wasting way more time just wasting time & getting no where at times than it woulda took to install a whole multimedia head unit in the first place then a carpc is NOT for you.


    for every successful install, the kind that the owner says "woh, I will always have a carpc from now on", I'll bet that there are at least 10 failed attempts too, by guys like you who tried it & just wasn't really successful, then quit... if your a quitter then a carpc is NOT for you.


    your kinda preaching your advice to the wrong crowd here. many of the guys here are dedicated to a carpc to the point that failure is just not an option, if it isn't good enough, then we learn WHY it isn't good enough, & then we REDO it to be good enough... still don't satisfy? then regroup, come up with a solution, & then attack the problem again...

    very few guys have a successful install there first time out... the second will be better cause you will learn from the first.. the 3rd will be even better & so on... that's for the dedicated non quitters... the quitters are not going to make round 2,3 & so on... your the perfect example of this.

    this is NOT to say ANYTHING negative about you really, if a carpc is not for you then it's just not for you... there is nothing wrong with that... the only thing wrong with that is that you had to, in your eyes, waste the time & effort finding this out... don't feel too bad, many guys have gone down the same road as you & realized that a carpc takes a lot of dedication & is not just a matter of putting it in & then touching the screen to control it.

    the real bottom line, if you just want mp3's & video's to play in your car, & maybe blue tooth phone connection & stuff, & you just want to be able to use this daily with the least amount of hassles then a carpc may not be a wise choice... there are many better ways of achieving that now a days that are way cheaper in OVERALL costs involved. if despite all this, you say to your self, I don't care, I want a carpc anyway & I will do whatever it takes to achieve that, then maybe a carpc is for you...

    there are many guys here that there is nothing that will stop them from eventually realizing there goal of having a functioning PC in there car that satisfies them, nothing! it could short out & blow up tomorrow & while being a disappointment, it is just another setback & stumbling block in the hobby of the carpc... no one said it was going to be easy, anyone that said that is going to be the same kinda guy who is going to eventually abandon it anyway, as there is nothing easy about it. you have to really want it bad enough that no obstacle will get in your way... we know that there are SOME successful installs out there, if your the type of person that says "if they can do it so can I, & I will do whatever it takes to reach that", then a carpc may actually be right for you

    for some guys, myself included, there is NOTHING you could POSSIBLY say that would make them NOT have a carpc

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    After 3 installed and function well over the years, I'm ready for another one once I get a new Mini-van.
    Take me 6 months wandering and reading the board to start a "practice installed" on the Supra and another years to do an actual install, the Matrix. Another 3 years to collect used/broken parts from other members to make another install, the Accord.
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    Carputers

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    I agree with the other posters. Carputers are not 'plug & play'.
    I did network support for 15 years which envolved integrating 'non compatable' hardware, software and ideas because the boss wanted it. I became quite good at it, but the systems required a fair amount of maintenance. Learning that, I do the maintenance on my home computers, network and internet connections. It is not a big leap for me to apply this to my truckputer (which I finished testing on a 3k round trip to Florida).

    This is an advanced hobby not much different than photography, hanggliding, flying or parasailing (to name a few). Those of us who wish to persue this as something we like to do is what we like. To disuade others from not attempting it is nonsence. That is your opinion. It didn't meet your expectations and/or you didn't have time for the system maintenance.

    As for my system: My wife works for GM and gets company cars with built in GPS. Although my system is far from complete, she was impressed. That tells me alot.

    Good luck with you cookie cutter system. I personally like something a little different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lenso View Post
    I don't even have a carpc yet and I saw that your route was absolutely half-assed. Most of the people here put time and effort into getting something awesome. You just threw money at turn key solutions(laptop, motorized lilliput, cigarette plug power) and thought it would be the same as a customized carpc. FOR SHAME!
    I spent the better part of 2.5 years just reading on these forums before I finally ordered parts to start my project. When I first discovered this forum and this hobby, I was somewhat overwhelmed (in a good way) at all the stuff that was possible, not to mention all the choices. As time progressed, I read more and more and gradually changed my design goals. I went from wanting a boxed unit to wanting a progressively customized unit.

    The parts are finally on order, and I'll likely make changes to the design before they even come in, heh.
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    Why did you bump this six month old thread?
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    All this is sooooo true. This coming from a recent newbie. I first learned about the idea of a PC in a car and instantly loved it. I knew I would be able to go as far as have internet access miles from home because I've done it with my laptop tethered to my phone. The idea of having nearly unlimited music at the touch of a finger is unlike anything most headunits can do. Someone said something about wanting to do a carpc because it's cheaper than a multimedia HU isn't a good idea. But the truth is, it can cost less money but require more work. If you're willing to put in the work, it will be great. It was a bit of a learning experience for me, since I knew cars very well, and computers to some extent. I didn't need to learn as mush as many people do, which made it easier. I feel I got lucky, because my first install did work, although it was limited. I ended up just getting new hardware and it's much better. Now that I do have a carpc, I won't be without one. I'll even go headless next time and add AM/FM to it. But it is definitely a project that a limited number of people will be able to get through, and even less people will enjoy it like I did. I remember a kind of sadness that came over me when it was "done". I enjoyed working on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caelric View Post
    Why did you bump this six month old thread?
    Sorry. I just saw this thread in the "relevant threads" section below some other thread, and I felt like responding to it.

    I have a bad habit of not checking out the dates on threads. Had I known it was this old, I wouldn't have responded.
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    Even though this is an old thread, it does have some importance to the "newbies" that may be thinking of going with a carpc. It might open their eyes more so they have a better idea of what to expect.

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    Yes and this thread added a new word to my vocabulary:
    "Craptastic"
    Thanks for bringing it back up.
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