Thread: I think I'm done with the CarPC Deal

Originally Posted by JS8531

I could have done the same thing though? give him a red for not agreeing with me

Yes that's the whole point...

Originally Posted by JS8531

but I wont go down to that level.

Your choice, but theres no reason you can't. Although I myself am thinking of giving you bad rep just because of the insanity of your "argument".

Originally Posted by JS8531

Is up to the reader to decide for themselves if they should go ahead with the project after seeing both side, ie carpc or HU.

Last time I checked, there was no HU natzi. It has always been up to the user whether or not to do something.

Originally Posted by JS8531

If you really think that a carpc that does 700 more features and as stable as a top end HU, that being built by some guys in his bedroom is possible then I dont know what else to think really.

I am completely confused by this... A CarPC DOES do infinitely more things than a HU and always will. That's because it is like those overlapping circle charts. All HUs are CarPCs but not all CarPCs are HUs.

What is a HU? A computer that runs an OS and some frontend software usually on an ARM processor. What is a general CarPC around here? Well we have the majority with x86 compatible processors, some that have IBM PPC processors like on the old macs, and some using ARM processors like on that wall plug. Now there are far more (openly available) programs for x86 than for ARM or PPC really. So by choosing an x86 platform for your system base, you have way more than 700 extra things it can do over the ARM.

All stability really is, is a smart choice of hardware and software that play nicely together. If you do it like a cheap bastard and use an old HD, and a P4 northwood powered off of an inverter, yeah you are going to have problems. The HD will probably die, the processor probably overheat, and the inverter cause noise, fire, or destroy components with its crappy sine wave.

As for sotware, any OS works. I'm sure kev will rave about linux here somewhere () but really if you know what you are doing or know how to ask people that know what they are doing, you can lock down any OS to be stable. Blue screen free since mid 2006 for me, with an unoptimized, unlocked, XP install. Not too difficult.

Originally Posted by JS8531

Its not a good read for the newbies thinking that $5000+ worth of kit and 2+ years of effort is gonna give them the expected results, when in reality this is barely possible at this time, well until the big guys materialized it. In this case it be probably all embeded stuff, again it be classed as a HU.

You are either really naive, or really stupid. Only person I know who spent that much is hijack, and he has a bagillion screens and is open about how wasteful he was and how he didnt research things and bought twice (or more). Many setups range in the $500 to $1000 range total and can be put together in a weekend. Mold in the screen and running wires takes the longest. Building the PC is childs play and can be done during a single episode of spongebob... if you watched the show and only worked during the commercials even. Software takes some time to install, but no effort. You put in the disk, enter your config options, click go and wait an hour or two. When you come back the sweet sweet smell of a fresh OS install will greet you.

Anyone that takes 2yrs obviously doesnt have a clue what they are doing, are doing something much more than simple HU functionality, having budget issues, or the project is on the backburner...

Originally Posted by JS8531

Regardless I would love to see this super project comes to fruition and of course it must be cheaper than a HU as promised by many. It would be interesting to see BMW use centrafuse/streetdeck on XP as their frontend on their top end model.

It would be interesting but it would be a horrible business model. They will obviously use Linux because of licensing and extreme kernel modification.

The good companies already do. For instance the navigation systems on Lexus (well all toyotas actually) is a small modified linux distribution. You can burn a DVD with a special coding in the first few packets, and it will start the system up in a bootloader mode where you can download the data to the HD. It can be run in a VM on a regular x86 machine as well. It is already here, and is transparent. A CarPC can be just as transparent as long as a dolt is the one installing it.

Originally Posted by JS8531

As for reputation, its merely a popularity contest.

Yup. It is. And you lose.

Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster

You are either really naive, or really stupid. Only person I know who spent that much is hijack, and he has a bagillion screens and is open about how wasteful he was and how he didnt research things and bought twice (or more).

Anyone that takes 2yrs obviously doesnt have a clue what they are doing, are doing something much more than simple HU functionality, having budget issues, or the project is on the backburner...

I am talking about hijack

You can neg me as much as you want if that make you more of a man. I thought thats pretty gay things to do so'

I know fusion is your little business, you wouldnt want any negative things said about carpc, thats fairly obvious LOL. Hell Im not even being negative Im just stating the truth why some people bail out. Funny how you guys get so defensive, I truly apologise to those whos affected by letting out the truth

Even your favourite hang out is dead as a dodo, make you wonder where everyone gone doesnt it?

Anyway enjoy it while it last, see you guys in 20 years?

Originally Posted by JS8531

I am talking about hijack

You can neg me as much as you want if that make you more of a man. I thought thats pretty gay things to do so'

I know fusion is your little business, you wouldnt want any negative things said about carpc, thats fairly obvious LOL. Hell Im not even being negative Im just stating the truth why some people bail out. Funny how you guys get so defensive, I truly apologise to those whos affected by letting out the truth

Even your favourite hang out is dead as a dodo, make you wonder where everyone gone doesnt it?

Anyway enjoy it while it last, see you guys in 20 years?

well as you said it paints an unfair picture to a n00b that reads through. You say 2yrs and $5k, and that is 1 out of tens of thousands.

I had a CarPC long before we started Fusion. I do it for the hobby. I barely make anything off of it, but I give back to the community. For the amount of hours I put in, I would make more flipping burgers.

The CarPC is not dead. Nowhere close. The form it is in now however, probably wont be here in 20yrs let alone 5 years. We will probably have OLED sreens, blueray players, instant traffic overlayed onto gps with social networking POIs built in, smaller/more efficient/powerful computers and maybe HUDs. Who knows, but innovators will always be here and are everywhere leading what the rest of people like you just use for granted. Without people like us, you wouldnt have better options then you had before.

i am still under $1K total for my system. that includes- deck, 400w pioneer amp and alpine sub, 360w kenwood amp and polk momo speakers, 2ghz 2gb miniATX computer, m2atx, 320gb hdd space, dvdram with litescribe, lilliput eby701 transflective, sirf gps puck, wireless N pci card with external mounted antennas, laptop style trackpad, bluetooth portable keyboard, plug-in automatic battery charger, xbox controller...

a couple items like the deck were bought used, and i got good deals on a couple things... but doing a very complete system for under a grand is possible.

Originally Posted by JS8531

I am talking about hijack

You can neg me as much as you want if that make you more of a man. I thought thats pretty gay things to do so'

I gave you bad rep? I dont remember, what was the comment a wrote with it? UM, incase you didnt get the memo, I am Gay, always have been and always will be. LMFAO...... Obviously what you said upset me, I never give bad rep unless it was something that was worth giving it. Other then that I usually give people good rep, ask trader007, I gave him good rep, although I think alot of people gave him bad rep because it wont turn grean again.

I know fusion is your little business, you wouldnt want any negative things said about carpc, thats fairly obvious LOL. Hell Im not even being negative Im just stating the truth why some people bail out. Funny how you guys get so defensive, I truly apologise to those whos affected by letting out the truth

Even your favourite hang out is dead as a dodo, make you wonder where everyone gone doesnt it?

Anyway enjoy it while it last, see you guys in 20 years?

The Fusion Brain is made for all kinds of applications, it wasnt made 100% for Car PC systems. You can use it to control your houses lights. Make toast for you in the morning. Anything you can think of. So to say he isnt going to be negative because of the fusion brain, is the reason you get bad rep, your making a comment on something you obviously know little about.

I get defensive because I think the Car PC is the future. I am not going to let someone that doesnt research, make comments on something he hasnt grasped or understands. Thats the truth.

Your comment on the forums being dead as a dodo, is yet another comment of you not knowing what your talking about. Everyone knows that the forums during the summer is always slow. It has been that way for the 2 years I have been here.

Im sorry that your stuck in the past, if you could you would probably buy a Ford Model T and complain about any car newer then that. In 20 years my car pc will most likely be able to take control of your car!

Also, if you get upset over bad rep too bad, the system is there and it was done. If you dont like me giving you the bad rep (even though I dont remember) then give me bad rep back, its as simple as that!

EDIT: Toaster: Its taking me 2 years because like you said, I have bagillion screens, and I am doing a different install then most people. Also I have no time, and my money flow is slow, but when I did finally research and trash the first system, the second system actually was very fast. Infact it works perfect now, but I have no amps or speakers right now. You make me seem like some whore with a money spending problem, but it is true, lol. Rule number one is research, research, then research some more. I am glad I finally got it together, thanks to the forums.

Originally Posted by HiJackZX1

I gave you bad rep?

LOL

I wasnt talking about you, I was talking about fusion giving me the bad rep and I was replying to his post not you LOOL. I ask him if he wish to give me more if that makes him feel more manly or horny rather. OMG do people read post these days?

Dont let the "gay" word distract you, I didnt even know you are gay.

LOOL

I dont work in I rep you and you rep me basis, thats only for people who desperately like to wear the medals.

Oh and the dead as the dodo refers to my thread, you obiously wasnt born when it was created by the founder called scouse monkey, who have now left years ago.

Jeeezzz

Originally Posted by JS8531

LOL

I wasnt talking about you, I was talking about fusion giving me the bad rep and I was replying to his post not you LOOL. I ask him if he wish to give me more if that makes him feel more manly or horny rather. OMG do people read post these days?

Dont let the "gay" word distract you, I didnt even know you are gay.

LOOL

I dont work in I rep you and you rep me basis, thats only for people who desperately like to wear the medals.

Oh and the dead as the dodo refers to my thread, you obiously wasnt born when it was created by the founder called scouse monkey, who have now left years ago.

Jeeezzz

HAHAHAHA, OMG bro, you have me lost, so Fusion gave you bad rep? OK, but you said it was me, unless im reading wrong.

Well I commented on the gay part, because you may run into someone that really is. I dont know why people have to use it like that. Makes it seem like gay people are stupid or something. Thats like saying OMG thats so Straight, as though its bad.

I get mixed up with what your saying because you arent clear, lol.

As for the rep thing, Its is a medal type thing, but a medal to show who gives good advice and has helped people move forward on their projects and contribute to the community, I see nothing wrong with that.

EDIT: medals = danglies

UMMM, im gonna call them medals, danglies sounds like someone didnt wipe their @$$ good and something is now hanging there.

Originally Posted by JS8531

LOL

I wasnt talking about you, I was talking about fusion giving me the bad rep and I was replying to his post not you LOOL. I ask him if he wish to give me more if that makes him feel more manly or horny rather. OMG do people read post these days?

Dont let the "gay" word distract you, I didnt even know you are gay.

LOOL

I dont work in I rep you and you rep me basis, thats only for people who desperately like to wear the medals.

Oh and the dead as the dodo refers to my thread, you obiously wasnt born when it was created by the founder called scouse monkey, who have now left years ago.

Jeeezzz

1) they aren't medals, they are danglies
2) I've never seen you in MT, and you werent part of the mafia... err... ah... pastry club?
3) You would know they were danglies if you were in MT

Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster

1) they aren't medals, they are danglies
2) I've never seen you in MT, and you werent part of the mafia... err... ah... pastry club?
3) You would know they were danglies if you were in MT

Im talking to hijack, he wouldnt know what danglies are, well he would but not in that context.

I dont hang out in MT but I been around and I dont claim to be part of the mafia either. Funny I have been around longer than you are.