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    oh, so what you originally meant to say is Windows frontends are superior to Linux frontends, not the actual operating systems themselves.

    CF may be superior to nGhost on Linux. CF may also be prettier for now. But RR? I have yet to see a RR skin that i find in the least attractive.

    I'm not trying to convince you to use linux, I'm just hoping people don't close up to it. It's rough now for sure, but wait until you see the new interface that I'm working on. It'll blow CF3 away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kev000 View Post
    oh, so what you originally meant to say is Windows frontends are superior to Linux frontends, not the actual operating systems themselves.

    CF may be superior to nGhost on Linux. CF may also be prettier for now. But RR? I have yet to see a RR skin that i find in the least attractive.

    I'm not trying to convince you to use linux, I'm just hoping people don't close up to it. It's rough now for sure, but wait until you see the new interface that I'm working on. It'll blow CF3 away.
    Bring it on. I'm all about LINUX...though the community may be throwing tomatos at me for saying that my new project will be using Windows 7. I will however be using my current PC as an additional PC for the backseat riders and it will be running LINUX which will also be networked to the main PC that will be running the Windows 7.

    My home network however is ALL LINUX..and I only use Windows for Netflix Instant Watch..which happens to run in a virtual machine on my LINUX host..

    But yeah...my current CarPC is running LINUX.
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    No, actually I do think Windows OS's are superior to Linux OS's as well. Would probably even rather get a Mac than a Linux machine, but that's just my preference. CarPC front ends are a whole different story though.

    Not trying to turn this into a Linux vs Windows ****ing fest, but regardless of whether Linux can boot in 5s or not, having to wait 10s+ for the BIOS to POST is still a bottleneck that's independent of the OS. Anyways, Im just hoping more manufacturers will follow suit. It looks like they installed the new Phoenix BIOS in a standard Lenovo T400, which is why I am wondering about the possibilities of flashing this BIOS on other systems as well.

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    about freakin time pheonix got their **** together. these bios's are horrible for startups, most of them taking longer to load then windows itself. this bios clearly eliminated the bios boot time, which enables windows to start loading as soon as you push the power button.

    now, i still prefer hibernate because it saves my session... but this is something that ALL computers should have, there is no reason to wait for a bios to load unless youre troubleshooting.

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    To do this they are using the new EFI bios, not the standard bios you are used too. Windows 7, OS10.something (forget which one), and Linux support the new EFI bios. XP does not. It is not very likely you will see EFI bios's created for existing boards, but this will be something you will in the PC world moving forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trader007 View Post
    about freakin time pheonix got their **** together. these bios's are horrible for startups, most of them taking longer to load then windows itself. this bios clearly eliminated the bios boot time, which enables windows to start loading as soon as you push the power button.

    now, i still prefer hibernate because it saves my session... but this is something that ALL computers should have, there is no reason to wait for a bios to load unless youre troubleshooting.
    You can't beat mr. intel when it comes to bad bios, especially the lower end stuff!
    I really like that companies are actually starting to care about boot times, and not just clock frequency. There's still one problem with this fast boot time, you'll still have to wait for all your programs to load, in CF's case thats like 10 extra seconds! plus whatever else you have on your bootup.

    Here is why i really like nghost, its based on linux, which means its extremely flexible if you know how. Linux is FREE! windows is not! and linux can potentially boot from usb, while being almost hardware independent.
    This is why i hate linux, drivers are limited, and difficult for new users.

    Eventually i hope linux will become a real (and free) alternative to windows, and with enough support nghost will other surpass FE in the long run.

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    OpenMobile + Ubuntu = Fast Boot, Fast FE, Minimal RAM usage

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    nobody will ever convince me that linux is better then windows, even for carpc's. win7 is available for $30 if youre a student, and there are many deals that anyone can get on for a fraction of retail price. microsoft is practically giving everyone win7 if you follow the promotions they have been running. add that with open source or free software like riderunner and i couldnt imagine going another route.

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    okay, um...most Linux distros are free...and open source.
    so...how you can make a cost comparison between linux and win7 is beyond me
    i am getting a free "signature copy of windows 7 ultimate" before it even launches because i was a beta tester and i agreed to hold a "house party"
    but that disk will most likely sit on a shelf and collect dust because i will never leave my linux
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    dloaded a version of windows 7 yesterday . windows seven starter edition only 1.2 gig on disk shame i havent got my power supply yet to test my new car pc system im building

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