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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosti View Post
    So would running a 64Bit OS and using 32bit app be pointless?

    I'm planning my rebuild for W7 and managed to find 99% of the drivers, bith 64Bit & 32Bit, still some only had 32bit available, so I just hope that the windows update process will find it.

    As I'm going SSD, Id prefer W7 64Bit with some SSD tweaks.

    The other question I had is will 2G ram be enough for W7 or throw in 4G?

    Nope. You won't get the benefit for that particular app using the 64bit extensions and memory allocation, but the OS still is, the drivers still are..

    Depending on the setup, 2gigs will be ok, with it so cheap why though? I'm unsure as to the mainboard/motherboard you're using however, many are still using 32bit memory addressing even though they can run a 64bit CPU. Meaning, you will still get less than 4gigs of actual memory in use due to the limitation.

    And if you're in the market for a new system, laptop, etc, it's something that should be foremost in your mind IMO. There are still many for sale where you're stuck at 4gigs or less no matter the CPU/OS.

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    I agree with Muttz. I run Win 64 and have only had 1 problem with drivers, and that was for my HT Strike sound card. There was a way around it by combining files from two different drivers and it worked fine, but other than that everything works flawlessly from my experience.

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    All the time I thought you guys were talking about carpc...I was feeling like an idiot installing 32bit in my car pc already...so just to be clear: do we gain more stability with 64bits, or not in a carpc?

    I think the main carpc problems I've found are drivers. Most software will work (be it in compatibility mode). So should I go 4GB 64bits?

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    64bit is just better in many ways, no one way really a big difference though beside the max ram support.

    if you already have 32bit installed, and you dont need 4gb ram, then 32bit is fine. if you have the hardware capable of running 64bit and you havent installed yet, then go 64bit.

    microsoft has been working on 64bit windows since 2004 and earlier. windows XP was the first windows to have a 64bit version. the development and public testing has gone on for almost a decade now, it is anything but a unkown.

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    32bit Windows can only address 3.25GB actually, so the rest is wasted.

    This thread is starting to remind me of the headaches with DEC Alpha, MIPS, PowerPC, etc. Blah. NT had like 6 or more different CD for different platforms. Good thing they mostly died off and didn't go mainstream. That was hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curiosity View Post
    32bit Windows can only address 3.25GB actually, so the rest is wasted.

    This thread is starting to remind me of the headaches with DEC Alpha, MIPS, PowerPC, etc. Blah. NT had like 6 or more different CD for different platforms. Good thing they mostly died off and didn't go mainstream. That was hell.
    Actually, it's 4gigs, usually just goes to 3.25 or thereabouts due to memory allocation for other addressed memory resources, so it gets reduced down from 4, especially if your onboard video doesn't have dedicated memory, or otherwise shares the installed, which most do.

    I just upgraded my carpc setup to win7 64bit. I had to hunt down a few 64 bit drivers for the rs-232 converters and a couple of other odds and ends, but working great sofar for me, most were picked up with windows update, only a few of the oddball ones were missing still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RipplingHurst View Post
    All the time I thought you guys were talking about carpc...I was feeling like an idiot installing 32bit in my car pc already...so just to be clear: do we gain more stability with 64bits, or not in a carpc?

    I think the main carpc problems I've found are drivers. Most software will work (be it in compatibility mode). So should I go 4GB 64bits?
    I think 32bit car pc installs still make a lot of sense. 4 GBs of RAM in car pcs still isn't that common and the software we use is very eclectic and not all the software runs perfectly in 64 bit OSes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne613 View Post
    Actually, it's 4gigs, usually just goes to 3.25 or thereabouts due to memory allocation for other addressed memory resources, so it gets reduced down from 4, especially if your onboard video doesn't have dedicated memory, or otherwise shares the installed, which most do.
    It's more to do with the 750MB upper virtual address space that will never be used, because we'll never reach 4GB. LOL

    640KB is more than we'll ever need.

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    At this point, it seems silly to me to not buy a 64 bit machine. The writing's on the wall, and 64 bit is the way things are going.

    No machine is ever future proof, machines are out of date before you get the home, etc, etc, but 32-bit was dead two years ago, and buying a 32-bit machine is entirely committing yourself to a dead technology. You can still run 32-bit apps on a 64-bit machine.

    Just my .02. I like my 64-bit machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curiosity View Post
    It's more to do with the 750MB upper virtual address space that will never be used, because we'll never reach 4GB. LOL

    640KB is more than we'll ever need.
    Good ole' Bill Gates... PAE..meh. I think he did some quote on how no one would ever need more than 2gigs as well, or have files larger than that, hence the nice .avi and such issues back when 540meg drives were state of the art.


    As for 64bit installs, if you can I would at this stage. If your machine is fully capable of utilizing it, and you can track down all the drivers it's silly not to IMO for a fresh install.

    Now purchasing a 32bit machine for a carpc? Ya, still fully viable. From what little I know/see they'll hang around like VGA connectors looooooong after they should have poofed, far cheaper for the specialty devices that don't need the latest and greatest to do what everyone wants/expects.

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