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    If anything, I think Android tablets are going to expand CarPC's. They're still PC's, it's just another form-factor, a form factor that makes it much easier for joe average to install a CarPc. Instead of installing a separate touchscreen and running cables to a motherboard located elsewhere in the car, and then worrying about getting boot-times down, we can just buy a tablet that already has everything in one, the multi-touch screen and battery and CPU are all one unit you can mount fairly easily, and take with you when you park.

    If some of the CarPC hardware providers get on board it's going to speed this along, an Android driver for FusionBrain would be especially handy.
    The Android GUI by itself is usable in a car, but it's going to be better once someone writes a specific car-friendly GUI.

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    Not just a UI - there needs to be I/O as well. So far, none of the Android tablet's I've seen have a standard host mode, and bluetooth can only take you so far...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penzance View Post
    Not just a UI - there needs to be I/O as well. So far, none of the Android tablet's I've seen have a standard host mode, and bluetooth can only take you so far...
    i'll add one more..i think this came up in another thread....the OS itself has ZERO car specific functionality. That legally required "can't watch video while moving" safety feature isn't possible with android short of force closing every app when the vehicle starts moving.

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    I'll be a bit more specific and make a long bet.

    "Within the next 36 months, the number of new monthly registrations on mp3car.com will decline by 1/3 and the number of active members will fall by 1/3."

    I'm hoping that this bet will be wrong, but if the community continues to tinker with FE's and treats mobile connectivity as an add-on instead of a central component, our innovation will cease to be of significance.

    I'm not alone here. Gartner predicts that: "By 2013, mobile phones will overtake PCs as the most common Web access device worldwide."

    Recent statistics of internet access by mobile browsers shows that it is growing exponentially. (I charted this data from the Forester report)



    That trend should continue based on healthy sales of mobile devices. Forester research provides some recent data and predictions about mobile device sales.



    The growth in the next few years will be in smaller, more portable mobile devices that depend on location and connectivity in a way that desktop and even laptop machines do not. Whether you like or hate the iPad, it is selling well and the wave of tablets that arrive this year will drive development and innovation in the mobile OS and software markets that will propel the mobile market forward.



    Of course, these stats could be wrong about the timing, but frankly, I find it difficult to believe they are wrong about the trend. Automotive manufacturers and industry players are taking this seriously and putting dollars behind the professional development of apps and ecosystems that incorporate the car-as-a-node philosophy while our community develops on a car-as-the-hub philosophy.

    If this trend continues, our little corner of the world will look like those guys who still develop for the Apple Newton. Quaint and cool, in a retro sort of way. While this forum doesn't represent *all* car pc users and developers, it certainly has a fairly broad cross-section of them and I don't see anyone seriously headed in this direction.

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    Got a new (to me but 2008) Car , I tried the Iphone route for 6 months and without an LCD touchscreen its not gonna fly. So I am back in the CarPC scene.

    The used car market and people looking to save a buck will always look at things like carpcs as an alternative.

    I am going to do a hybrid approach, some native car integration ( bluetooth, XM Radio, Steering Controls and add the carputer and amps, speakers etc.

    OEM electronics have little expansion capabilites, are very expensive and have no design input from the user.

    All this integration from the likes of Ford, Toyota is great because it will raise the bar.

    Agreed our market will shrink, but not die. When I returned to Mp3Car's website I noticed the activity has dropped over the past couple of years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugbyte View Post
    I'm not alone here. Gartner predicts that: "By 2013, mobile phones will overtake PCs as the most common Web access device worldwide."
    Meh. It's one thing to overtake for web access because your checking mail, or a specific forum, etc, another to replace altogether use. I think more of them as an computer extension really, like buying an expensive steering wheel to play a good racing sim. Great at a few things, but put away when you need something more.

    Tablets could do it, and probably will eventually. But they've got quite a bit to go before they can have the integration, and expandability that an 8yr old laptop can still give.

    And I doubt for those that want it all that this will be a truly viable pc-killer, so long as the ability to put one in the car remains.
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    CarPC is dead? Ha anything "PC" is dead! PC gaming is dead killed by Xbox/PS3 or iPhone. PC itself is dead killed by iPad or dumb terminals.

    PS: that was a sarcastic post.

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    Very informative bugbyte! I regularly read engadget.com and been following their articles at CES. Yeah, I noticed there are quite a few (a lot) of articles on OEM computer integration into the car. I think it'll depend on how locked down the OEM will make these infotainment devices. More than likely they will be, as there are legality issues they need to deal with.

    Maybe as more and more of these things come out, the more people will be exposed to the idea of a CarPc. Then, as people get the aftermarket bug and want to upgrade, they'll turn to mp3car.com for all their CarPc needs. Who knows, we might even see an increase!

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    LOL, I didn't know the carpc was ever really alive! Only now through OEM development are these perks even some what common. In my eyes the carpc only had appeal as a fabricator, only until fine tuning my front end is it even user friendly enough for any one but me to push a button.

    It's about freedom and building "my car" to "my specs". No OE system, no matter how high end it's considered would be as loud, sound as beautiful, interface completely with the engine, cabin and beyond. Not to mention, while the syle they're putting into cars these days is getting better, it's still not the way I'd want it.

    Then again that's just me, if I had the funds and the shop I'd build the whole car from scratch so I know I'm crazy.

    In the end, it's the crazy nerds who do things the hard way that create the inovations worth sticking into every one elses crap.

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    Final word from me on this subject - what I mean by 'dead' is that the OEM offerings are almost comparable and in the process of becoming more compelling to the new membership that this forum tends to attract. Obviously, there are niches that OEMs will never fill, particularly if it encourages driver distraction. The custom car pc won't have any of that lockdown stuff and there will always be people who want that. Likewise, custom audio solutions or hardware configurations will always have to be hand-built.

    What I'm talking about are the people who turn to this forum and decide to join and install a car pc that does nav, music, maybe OBDII and so forth for the cool factor and/or price. They will stop joining in the future as manufacturers provide more affordable solutions that do almost everything and then some, for the masses. I think regulars tend to underestimate the number of people that come here for the basics and the massive information resource the discussions here represent.

    But like electricity which finds the path of least resistance, those people will find that OEM's are not only providing that, they're also preparing to provide even more innovative products and services that we aren't building because we focus on the car-centric solution that made sense in the past.

    That won't 'kill' the hardcore enthusiast's car PC, but it will substantially reduce the number of new members and mark decline of our forum because the solutions they seek will be available off the shelf.
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    I was gung ho on building a PC [until] just recently. However, between my new phone having internet and GPS and all...and this kit...Im starting to have trouble justfiying it haha.
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