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    LCD / Legal issues in NY

    Has anyone in the NY area has trouble with the police regarding our LCD GPS/MP3 systems? I was stopped once near binghamton, but the officer didn't seem to notice or question my display (it was a 10.4" in a ford explorer).

    I am concerned about the legal issues more now.. since I will have to use a pull out display in my 2002 VW GTI due to lack of space (I have a 2 DIN opening to use, which 1 DIN already occupied by a stereo receiver. (no, I can not remove it.) I will be using it for GPS / MP3 and I don't have an interest in DVD or mobile video... Any thoughts?


    I would be curious if any officers of the law are on this board and can give us all some insight on these matters.

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    vw GTI and in NY you say?

    I have the Armen Tm-701L in my upper din space (2002 Jetta). Its way too low for anyone to even notice outside the car. I've driven by the cops here iwth my thumbs up sticking out my window, they didnt notice. But yes its completely illegal to have the screen there.
    Mine needs to be updated.

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    Where are you located in NY?

    Where are you located in NY? I am in Orange County, NY.. If you are in the area we should meet up sometime as I would like to see other installs in person.

    Here's some pictures of my car (completely stock in the photos):
    http://www.autobahn-america.com/jason.htm

    Hope to hear from others in the NY area concerning their experiences with these matters.

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    nice nice, a gti 1.8T.... Im in brooklyn, NY. I dont know where orange, ny is but Ive been told an hour or so from manhattan.

    http://www.digitalww.com/TM701L_install3.htm
    that's me but lowered, 17x7.5 audi 6 spokes and a few other things. Are you headed to the H20 in maryland, MD?
    Mine needs to be updated.

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    wait wait your a member of Autobahn A? cool, im a fellow Coolwater VW. So then maybe I will see you at some point.
    Mine needs to be updated.

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    Unfortunatly I can't make the H20 International show this weekend in MD, but I will be at the Fall Classic VW Show-N-Go next month at Raceway Park, Englishtown, NJ. Maybe I'll see you there!

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    NY its perfectly legal unless the driver can see a moving image.. ie a movie playing. I know a ton of state troopers and they love my setup and never said a word. It could be used against you in court though if you have an accident and fingers are being pointed to who caused it.
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    Texas law says, "A motor vehicle may be equipped with video receiving equipment, including a television, a digital video disc player, a videocassette player, or similar equipment, only if the equipment is located so that the video display is not visible from the operator's seat."

    It also exempts:
    "(2) a monitoring device that:
    (A) produces an electronic display; and
    (B) is used exclusively in conjunction with a mobile navigation system installed in the vehicle."

    One could take that to mean you can only have a GPS application showing on the screen or you can use a carpc to perform other functions such as playing music as long as it has navigational capabilities.

    The law is pretty vague either way, and you can read it here: http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlo/7...t/SB00209F.HTM
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    Hi Gork,
    I am subject to that law as well and I didn't take it as vague at all. I'm assuming you are referring to SB 209 I think? To me it means that you cannot possess a screen, visable to the driver, that is for use of any sytem other than a GPS. Note the word "exclusively" I'm pretty sure that means "nothing else"
    You'll note that it also states that commercial vehicles are exempt from this bill. I'm not sure about the bill as passed though. Maybe it was re-written before being signed?

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    If they do in fact mean "exclusively" that invalidates many of the OEM systems from manufacturers such as Toyota and BMW that use the video screens for much more than navigation (OBC, Telephone, Climate Control, CD Player, Radio). I don't have a problem with disallowing DVD/TV?Other video to be seen by the driver, though.

    The person who showed me the link represented it to have passed, but I don't know that for sure. I think as long as I keep similar to the functions and ease of an OEM system, I'll be OK...
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