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    As of now, I have all my cds encoded in Highest-End Variable Bit Rate mp3s. They sound really good.

    I know there is frequency cut offs when compressing to mp3 to get the file smaller, but is it just the highs, or does it do the lows too?

    Bascially, will the highest encoded mp3 handle the bass for subs?

    I know wavs will probably do 10X the space, but I plan on having at least 115+GB to probably a maximum of 190GB in my car anyway.

    Just wondering what I should do.

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    Ahhhhhhhh did you say 160 GB? Overkill maybe? I can't even imagine needing 100 GB for mp3s I have about 6 gig currently.

    As far as mp3 conversions. You should be fine at 128 bit. There is plenty of bass there. Most of the data that gets gut is stuff you cant hear. My mp3s put out enough high mid and low to hang with the best of them. Unless your running a Kraco system!

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    Whoa! That sets the record of space (posted here anyway)...

    There are some old posts that discuss what's lost with the MP3 scheme, and what is lost but can't be perceived in the car because it is a too small volume so the lowest frequencies are larger than the car itself so they can't be heared inside it.

    To test that just hear a good piece of music with ample highs and lows inside your car (with your eyes closed, a cold beer...) directly from the CD, then hear the same from a 128Kbps MP3, and then if you can notice a difference use 160K. I know I can't (in my car that's it).

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    my MP3's actually sound better than my CD's......
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    Well, with the vbr, it will hit 320k/bit if needed...according to winamp. That why I need the space:

    2837 mp3s = 14.4GB

    So..I was thinking of getting one of those 75GB USB drives in addition to my internal 40GB. No, I don't have the "largest" space, I was just thinking of going larger to accomendate for the wavs if I decided to go that route.

    As for the sound, I'm not sure what it is, but on the bose system currently in the car(being replaced), it feels there is another surround layer...sound wider, with wavs than mp3s.

    Don't get me wrong, I think the mp3s sound really great, plus the file size is tremendously smaller...and the ID3 tag really helps when organizing.

    I'll have pics when done in a month or so.

    And in case anyone is wondering, yes, I did go with g-net....kinda spendy, but it was what I was looking for.

    Thanks for the info.
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    Hey!

    I use Musicmatch to rip my mp3's at VBR. I find it's as good as the cd. Anything under 192k CBR is noticeable on my system, so I'm glad VBR is available. The only thing I hate is the time remaining is up to $hit, and comes out all wrong....25Mins for a 3min song etc, but apart from that...it's ok.

    I suggest you try the test. Rip a VBR MP3 and a WAV of the same song, play it and see if you can tell the difference. I only ever had one song that I could tell the difference on out of 2250 songs, so I'd stick with Mp3 VBR if I was you Enjoy!
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    You could try monkey's audio. It's a lossless compression that roughly halves the size of wavs without ANY loss in quality, or so they say.

    It's quick and it works with winamp!

    Check it out www.monkeysaudio.com

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    For me mp3's are the way to go mostly because of the compression. I have 10GB of music at home but a 1GB Hard Drive in the car keeps me happy for weeks.
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    I'm gonna use that monkey's audio. I can't tell a difference.

    The ID3 thing grabbed my attention also.

    Thanks for the info

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    http://arstechnica.com/wankerdesk/1q00/mp3/mp3-1.html
    there's an article on mp3 compression from ars-technica..
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