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    Some plans I have about doing this professionally

    So I've done a couple carputer setups in my car so far, they've all kind of been based on one setup but each one is different.

    But I've had a couple plans and I've talked to my father and a couple people about it and so far I've got nothing but good reviews on my idea.

    Basically I am looking to start up a limited business or the like, where we would install carputers for people. Doing all the work, configuring everything and doing any fabrication. All of which I consider myself "extremely" (for lack of other really good word ) talented in.

    Anyone know of any companies that do this? Or is this just basically a hobby for people? I'm kind of excited about it already

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyreDaug
    So I've done a couple carputer setups in my car so far, they've all kind of been based on one setup but each one is different.

    But I've had a couple plans and I've talked to my father and a couple people about it and so far I've got nothing but good reviews on my idea.

    Basically I am looking to start up a limited business or the like, where we would install carputers for people. Doing all the work, configuring everything and doing any fabrication. All of which I consider myself "extremely" (for lack of other really good word ) talented in.

    Anyone know of any companies that do this? Or is this just basically a hobby for people? I'm kind of excited about it already
    There's a guy who lives in my area who owns a business that does this. http://www.digitalicetechnology.com/

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    No I dont intend on it being a primary source of income, I already have a job right now (Im actually at work as I type this). And if its some extra cash doing something I love then I'll be twice as happy. I figure I can get a whole system with all the software and everything for around 500 bucks canadian. Installation and any fabrication (or any other services) are extra obviously, or I wouldnt be making any money.

    I've got a ton of ideas I need to get down on paper to start my thinking process

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    Well you will have to look at parts.

    VIA MII?

    You should see if you can get them direct from VIA as a supplier i'm sure they will let you even if it's for a small amount of orders a year.

    Xenarc LCD's would be the way to go but would pump up the price a bit but you can get the direct and cheap if you actual email them.

    PowerSupplys?

    Well i personally like my morex but thats cause I don't need auto on and off functions but im sure you can get some from opus etc for a good price.

    You really should look around and find the cheapest prices for all the hardware.

    Then you need to think of software like buying Winxp licences (a oem bundle would be cheaper but customers don't get a cd)

    Then you will have to talk to the frontend developers about permission for using it in your business.

    Then you have GPS problems not with the reciever but the maps you will have to buy the maps if your doing D3 or you will have to get something else like iguidence etc.

    There are alot of small things like that you need to think about also cases are the other thing you need to workout which is the best and can i put the PSU inside the case or outside.

    If outside what type of case can i get.

    Good luck with it hope it goes well
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    Don't forget warranty and liability issues!!!!!

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    how about you install our systems and make $ off that ...this way you will not have to worry about all the things one must take care of before launching such a business.
    Much more needs to be discussed if you agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyreDaug
    Basically I am looking to start up a limited business or the like, where we would install carputers for people
    GET THIS THOUGHT OUT OF YOUR HEAD!

    99% of people who want to start their own business fail because they focus on "starting a business". Because owning your own business is so alluring people tend to needlessly invest in infrastructure and advertising and find they have immediate debt but no immediate income, only the hope of a return on their investment. Frustration will quickly set in because of debt and the next thing you know, you're out of business.

    People will start filling your head with tax classification, whether you should be LLC, S-Corp., etc. Ficticious Names, Liability, Insurance, Support, etc, etc, etc.

    All of this stuff is important but get some REAL experience under your belt before you take the plunge. Show off your vehicle to anyone willing to see it and see if you can generate interest for someone to pay you to do an install. If it is good, they'll tell people about you and hopefully that will lead to more work. When more work comes in and push comes to shove where you HAVE to be a real business then do all of the "business" oriented things.

    I know many people who have started their own companies, myself included and failed but for every one person I know that started a business I know twice as many who HAD to start a business because their sidework turned into a business.

    Moral of the story, don't start a business, evolve into a business.

    Hope this helps............

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    people need to evolve into a business and have a very strong business plan...and more importantly - connections.

    its a f'in pain in the ***, but one must have eye on the prize
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    Thanks for the responses guys.
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    Don't forget warranty and liability issues!!!!!
    All the warranty on the parts used in the carputer are covered under the purchase warranty. The install job and technical issues will come with a 6month free service if anything goes wrong.

    how about you install our systems and make $ off that ...this way you will not have to worry about all the things one must take care of before launching such a business.
    Much more needs to be discussed if you agree.
    No way! I wont install your systems, this is for a people who cant do it themselves or arent sure of everything involved. This site is great and this is a hobby, you do it!

    GET THIS THOUGHT OUT OF YOUR HEAD!

    99% of people who want to start their own business fail because they focus on "starting a business". Because owning your own business is so alluring people tend to needlessly invest in infrastructure and advertising and find they have immediate debt but no immediate income, only the hope of a return on their investment. Frustration will quickly set in because of debt and the next thing you know, you're out of business.

    People will start filling your head with tax classification, whether you should be LLC, S-Corp., etc. Ficticious Names, Liability, Insurance, Support, etc, etc, etc.

    All of this stuff is important but get some REAL experience under your belt before you take the plunge. Show off your vehicle to anyone willing to see it and see if you can generate interest for someone to pay you to do an install. If it is good, they'll tell people about you and hopefully that will lead to more work. When more work comes in and push comes to shove where you HAVE to be a real business then do all of the "business" oriented things.

    I know many people who have started their own companies, myself included and failed but for every one person I know that started a business I know twice as many who HAD to start a business because their sidework turned into a business.

    Moral of the story, don't start a business, evolve into a business.

    Hope this helps............
    Wow thanks for the response, I guess I went a little overboard by saying I wanted to start up a business and it didnt come out quite the way I wanted to, and Ive done a little more thinking since I posted that.

    While I was buying the parts and upgrading stuff for my setup I was at OTV Computers (local place here, awesome prices) and I was talking to the guy about my setup and everything it can and will do. The guy was extremely amazed of the progress on the system. I wanted to ask him to be some sort of affiliate. I havent thoroughly thought this through, but basically we advertise for each other (duh) and maybe bring my business as a contract to them. For everything I need, I will go to them and maybe work out some sort of discount. Again it needs more thought.

    "Evolving" into a business is a much better way of saying it. I dont intend on getting a loan, spending money, getting a name, spending money, advertising and spending money before I start doing other things first. I dont want to just come out of no where with a name and a service to offer, because no one will bite. It has to be a gradual recognition process and I know that.

    Monday I'll go in with a proposition for OTV and see what they say. I kinda know the guy from when I was just buying stuff before, it seemed he would be the only person I would actually deal with ALL the time. So I've got some recognition there.

    Any other advice you guys can give? Its all appreciated!

    EDIT: I forgot to mention about the prices and the word "cheapest". I for one am a quality freak. With everything, personally I will deal with the worst until I can afford the best, theres no inbetween with me. And for this "project" I am going to have to learn that. Because I dont want to have the "cheapest" parts in there, I want things that are name brand (doesnt have to be a high end, its not a hard core gaming machine, but something of recognition)

    Here's a sample system I put together
    Chip: AMD Sempron 2200+ 68$ @ OTV
    Board: Asrock k7s41gx sis740 $58 @ otv
    ram: 256mb DDR $47 @ OTV
    HDD: seagate 40gb 7200rpm $75 @ toplogix
    HDD Cooler: Vantec twin fan $13 @ OTV
    PSU: OEM 350w/400w atx $19 @ OTV
    optical: Aopen 52x24x52 cd-rw 16x dvdrom $50 @ otv
    inverter: Motomaster Eliminator 400W Power Inverter $49.99 @ cantire
    surge: Startech/MGE Surge Arrest 12$ @ otv
    cpu cooler: Coolermaster X-Dream II, 24dp $14 @ otv
    screen: Lilliput 7" XGA TFT Car Monitor w/audio VGA Laptop PC $243.19 @ ebay
    keyboard: Logitech Cordless access keyboard $27 @ toplogix
    os: Windows xp home oem 115 @ otv
    791.18 894.03 tax

    Personally I have 256 ddr and that same asrock board and its a great combination (with an xp3000). I will chose seagate drives because of their good shock protection. Generally around the same price as the other drives, but its always good to know about extra protection. The PSU does not have to be a very powerful one, that generic one is plenty for what is being done. Ofcourse there is an option to upgrade it, but this (maybe without the cd burner, could do with a cheaper dvdrom) is generally the "entry level" system. I'm sure I could cheapen out on a couple other things but I dont want to. Again the customizability is an option, but I'd rather my carputer be set out with the thought they are "average" home pc's this day in age. 256 ram is the bare minimum for an average pc, but for a car I think it sits in the middle. Playing music, movies etc doesnt take alot of memory. And 40gig is decent enough for the average user

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