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    Aren't these the same governments that told us we should buy more fuel effiecient cars and mandated fuel efficiency and gave tax breaks to companies that made fuel efficient cars?

    Why did they make us get all these crappy low powered lawnmowers with seats if they are just going to charge us more for them too?

    Screw the governments who want to do this stuff!

    I say we all go out and get big giant fuel guzzling cars from the 70's just to spite them all!

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    I remember last year or a year ago. If you buy one of the hybrid car, there is a 1 time 2K tax break.
    Oh now make me wonder. Arnol has 2 hummers (I think). Tax by gallon will definitely hurt him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Monkey


    75mpg int he city and 50 on the freeway? eh?

    isn't thast suposed to be the other way round?

    Actually I think its accurate. Hybrids really excel in the city but flounder on the highway as more power is demanded from it than it can most efficiently provide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skipjacks
    Aren't these the same governments that told us we should buy more fuel effiecient cars and mandated fuel efficiency and gave tax breaks to companies that made fuel efficient cars?

    Why did they make us get all these crappy low powered lawnmowers with seats if they are just going to charge us more for them too?

    Screw the governments who want to do this stuff!

    I say we all go out and get big giant fuel guzzling cars from the 70's just to spite them all!

    Way head of ya there. The 66 I'm putting the carputer in is a big block, she drinks lots of gas.....

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    Actually I think its accurate. Hybrids really excel in the city but flounder on the highway as more power is demanded from it than it can most efficiently provide
    yes, your right about that. Hybrids do excell on city because it uses the battery to start and use the engine to keep powering the car, thats why highways are worse cause its not battery dependant.

    As far as the arcticle. is it true? eh, maybe. i can see it happening. But blaming 75mpg city fuel efficient cars is bs based on today hybrids. those things are lucky to get anywhere near the sticker values once the battery has had a chance to discharge in a real world environment. And as far as using GPS to track, well, thats just stupid, cause there will be all too many of use who will put steel blocks over the antennas to make them stop working or just cut the power to the units when unwanted.

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    Over here they use the whole 'taxing fuel to save the world' crap to justify taking as much as they like, and we have no way of knowing how much of that money goes to pay for roads..

    I just did a couple of conversions and my last tank of fuel at 80p/litre works out at $5.77 a US gallon, how much do you guys pay over there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaRacerz
    As far as the arcticle. is it true? eh, maybe.
    Er... True in what sense? Yes, it is true they're developing and testing methods to tax-by-the-mile using either GPS or RFID. I could link you to a half-dozen or more other articles on the subject.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaRacerz
    And as far as using GPS to track, well, thats just stupid, cause there will be all too many of use who will put steel blocks over the antennas to make them stop working or just cut the power to the units when unwanted.
    That's not something the general public would know to do, and you're assuming that they're going to point it out and say "Here's where your GPS unit is, and here's where the power line is..." More likely it would be integrated deeper into the vehicle (OnStar anyone? ).

    Of course, there always are and will always be people who know how to subvert the system and disable it. And for those that do, consider the following scenario:

    "BWEEOOOP!!!"

    "Yes officer? Is there a problem?"

    "Yes, my scanner indicates that you've disabled the GPS tracker in your vehicle..."

    Now while I'm sure many would think this to be highly unlikely, remember that there's a significant difference between what you subjectively consider *improbable* and what is technologically *impossible*.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mp3oplecarrier
    Over here they use the whole 'taxing fuel to save the world' crap to justify taking as much as they like, and we have no way of knowing how much of that money goes to pay for roads..

    I just did a couple of conversions and my last tank of fuel at 80p/litre works out at $5.77 a US gallon, how much do you guys pay over there?

    Steve
    Oh yeah, you folks in Europe and the UK pay out the *** for gasoline.
    I pay about $2.09/gal in California, SF East Bay (which is near the top of the national prices).

    Europe does, however, have better mass transit and light rail. The US could have had better mass transit, but due to various factors (cough-ford-hack-gm), it was instead deliberately dismantled. (I could go into more detail, but that's a whole OTHER story)
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanMan69
    Oh yeah, you folks in Europe and the UK pay out the *** for gasoline.
    And just imagine how ****ed off we are about that when we live on an island surrounded by oilfields!
    ....Yes, I know it has a stupid name, those crazy Japanese!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanMan69
    Europe does, however, have better mass transit and light rail. The US could have had better mass transit, but due to various factors (cough-ford-hack-gm), it was instead deliberately dismantled. (I could go into more detail, but that's a whole OTHER story)
    Erm i would say that some develpong nations have better publc transport than we do in the UK - our rail network is a disgrace and is deadly. Our buses are horrible and the london underground stinks and is all sweaty and minging.

    Our roads are hugely congested and it would better for the environment if we added an extra lane to motorways as when cars sit in traffic they are doing 0mpg. i partly blame trucks who pull out to overtake each other and block lanes but i also blame motorists who don't use the lanes properly. It really ****es me off when people don't keep left and it just causes congestion. In france, on 2 lane motorways everyone gets out of the way and you can blast up the overtaking lane. (it is just a shame the french seem to fall apart when it comes to 3 lane driving).

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