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    Think of the costs to integrate this into the millions of existing cars and new cars. Im for sure not going to pay a few hundred bucks for the system. It would cost the state to much money to put in every car.

    Why punish the drivers that want to save the environment? And that would also make a killing on business people that commute long distances, my uncle drive about 60-80 miles a day to work.
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    yep, the governator has some wild idea that it will work here.

    taxing the gas itself means that SUV gas guzzlers pay more tax to dive the same distance as a normal or economy car.

    taxing on the actual miles means that there would not be as much of an advantage to a gas sipping car ( other than gas (-) tax ) .. because both vehicle examples would pay the same tax ..

    stoooooopid !!!

    but it is in affect in some areas of the world ...

    ** invest in any company that has anything to do with the development of this !!!

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    Take all the funds they plan on using to integrate GPS in to all the cars in the US, new and old (which would be how many and at what price would the unit cost?) and use that cash to fill their all ready too heavy pockets. Why pay billions of dollars just so they can get the same amount back? I watched a news program about the Oregon testing trials, they proposed only a few cents per mile, two or five cents, whatever... it's ridiculous.I live in Utah and the roads are terrible, pot holes in the roads like gridlines on graphing paper...
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanMan69
    And fuel efficient cars would reduce the revenue which would make them good for drivers but bad for the roads.
    Easier to ban all fuel efficient cars. Would be less of a headache for everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmage
    Take all the funds they plan on using to integrate GPS in to all the cars in the US, new and old (which would be how many and at what price would the unit cost?) and use that cash to fill their all ready too heavy pockets. Why pay billions of dollars just so they can get the same amount back? I watched a news program about the Oregon testing trials, they proposed only a few cents per mile, two or five cents, whatever... it's ridiculous.I live in Utah and the roads are terrible, pot holes in the roads like gridlines on graphing paper...
    2 cents a mile X 30 miles/gal = 60 cents a gal
    4 cents a mile X 30 miles/gal = 1.20 a gal


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    Quote Originally Posted by technojunkie
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    Quote Originally Posted by redmage
    Take all the funds they plan on using to integrate GPS in to all the cars in the US, new and old (which would be how many and at what price would the unit cost?) and use that cash to fill their all ready too heavy pockets. Why pay billions of dollars just so they can get the same amount back?
    Why? Because they don't pay billions. We do.

    Your tax $ --> pay private (and well-connected) company to implement system

    Implemented system collects more of your tax $

    Your tax $ are then A) used for public services *AND* B) Invested/granted to private (and well-connected) companies.

    It's a consolidation scheme where the public foots the bill for the infrastructure and private (and well-connected) companies reap the profits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coach
    Arnold has had the hummer converter to bio diesel or something if I remember right. It can also run on vegetable oil!!!

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    Exclamation Yet Another...

    And here's a fresh one...

    California exploring proposal to tax drivers by the mile, not by the gallon

    Some state leaders are exploring a way to tax California drivers, not by the gasoline you buy, but by how many miles you drive. It's an idea that's continuing to work it's way through the state capital. But will it fly?

    The high cost of filling up has many people turning to cars with better gas mileage. But fewer fill ups for the same miles driven means wear and tear on our roads that isn't being matched by state fuel taxes.

    State road repair funds are losing money a loss of eight percent between 1998 to today alone. One answer is to replace the per gallon gas tax with a mileage tax, charging you for every mile you drive.

    I don't see any need for a change," said one driver we poke to.

    "I think anything I can do to contribute to make our roads better, I don't mind doing it," said another.

    Under the plan, the state's current 18 cent a gallon gas tax would be replaced with a tax on every mile you drive. Global positioning satellites and sensors on your car would keep tabs on exactly where and how far you travel.

    Privacy advocates say tracking drivers would be like big brother sitting in the back seat of your car, keeping tabs on everywhere you go. Others say it's a disincentive for people to buy hybrids and other more fuel efficient vehicles because any current tax savings would be eliminated.

    Count Adam Johnson among business owners who don't like that at all.

    "I drive 30,000 miles a year because of my business cleaning pools all day long. I'm on the road and that would hurt me more than help me."

    I think that's a little bit of an invasion of privacy.

    The idea has not been endorsed by Governor Schwarzenegger, but the head of the Department of Motor Vehicles likes the mileage tax proposal.

    Any changes would have to be first approved by the state legislature.
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    How would gps tracking work then?? I mean, what if someone from say Oregon drives over without a tracker??? Can't make EVERYONE fit one!??

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