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    Cool KarPC

    We are in progress in designing and building a complete in dash system. This will include, MP3 Playback, Play List features, Voice Recognition, Speech Output, GPS, On Board Vehicle Diagnoses, Security System, FM Radio, 25W x 4 Amplifier, Hardware audio effects, Video out, VGA out, LCD out, USB, Security out, Climate Control, File LOG (Flue & Repairs), Power Supply (Designed to work off of 12VDC) & Multiple users. The entire system with exception to the GPS antenna fits in a single din car stereo bay. It also includes a 6.4" LCD touch screen. This screen can be attached to the main unit or any where you prefer. The entire system is controlled by specialize software. The highest quality products are being used. For example. The core components meet industrial specifications and the internal HD is a mobile HD. The only HD up to the car challenge. It is to soon to give a reliable release date. So stay tuned.

    1) What would you expect to pay for such a beast?

    2) What would you like to see or like not to see in the product?

    3) In an effort to keep cost down and to introduce a challegen to the do it yourselfers. Would you be interested in modules. i.e. a radio module, Amp module, etc.?

    This is the only complete in dash system that we know of. Of you know on any others please yet us know.
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    Question

    how can you do onboard diagnostics with a computer? is there an interface you can buy and hook into the diagnostic plug?
    "if everything is under control, you're not going fast enough!"

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    OMG!! I love it! Well the idea...

    1)Well it would depend on the ease of use, functionality and asthetic aspects of it. I would start the bidding at $995.95 (US)

    2)I would like to see a DVD drive, or at least a CD drive. Maybe make a double DIN version? Will there be any visualizations for the screen based on the music?

    3)I think the module idea is great. It would keep the upgrading option wide open, along with people being able to choose what they want.

    Now some questions and suggestions I have:
    1) As far as the climate control and vehicle diagnostics are concerned, how compatable will this be? Many cars, many standards, many configurations.

    2) What kind of file transfer system will be used? I don't see any mention of LAN capabilities. Will it be through USB?

    3) What will the security system involve? Will it be for the car or for the "head unit" itself?

    4) How close to a PC will this be? Is a processor and RAM involved? If so what are the specifications of them?

    5) From my point of view this product has a HUGE bullseye on it for hackers and tweakers. Will the "specialized software" be run on a OS? Will it be upgadeable and customizable?

    It looks like it will be a great product! Let us know about the progress and any pictures or website that will come along!

    Just my .89 (inflation ya know!)
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    etrik: The On board diagnosis is only available for 1996 and newer vehicles. Yes there is an interface, your car just needs to be 1996 or newer.

    Maveric:
    2. Amazing you said this. We just decided last night to do this exact thing. So if you want DVD or CD the we are planing this option as either a by the case or by our add on unit. Both make the system into a double din. The unit will only be made from quality products(Mobile Drives).

    1) The Climate control will be for the advanced user. If you have an older system that works off of vacuum then you'll need to do some design work of your own. Most newer vehicles will require minimal instantiation work.

    2) It has built in LAN and has an option for wireless LAN.

    3) The security will be for both the System and the car. It is designed into the unit.

    4) This unit will be able to run PC apps. The PC specs are not finalized yet.

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    Sounds great. Probably out of price range for the "normal" guy. Most people on this BBS would probably not be interested because of our interest in building our own and our limited resources.

    However, I do believe there would be a huge interest and consumer market for the system. And if it is good enough even I would consider saving up for it.

    One more option to consider. Cell phone control capability. I have my cell phone hard-wired into my truck with a speaker, microphone, and mount for my cell phone which charges the phone while it's in the mount. I would try to find out if you might be able to use a wireless modem card to access the use of the cell phone through the system. Your already incorporating speach recognition. This way the cell phone could transmit through the vehicle speaker system and could automatically mute the system when incoming calls are answered.

    For the price of a wireless modem add-on for the consumer this would be very reasonable. I paid $250.00 for my cell phone setup. I'm sure you could find a way to add this on to your system for less than that and the consumer would have better volume control for his/her incoming signal.

    Maybe set it up to be an upgrade after the initial purchase. This would make it more financially feasible.

    If you could somehow keep the whole setup just under $1000.00 you probably couldn't keep up with the demand.

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    ShaneAus,

    To keep the price down we are designing it modular. Meaning, if all you need is a power supply then that's all well sell you. If you want an entire head unit then we'll sell that to you as well. So far the modules planed are ATX power supply, 4x25W Amp w/digital effects, FM radio, Bare head unit(this should include the buttons and circuitry to control all modules), Security, & Climate module. Most of the modules are stand alone require high to no electrical knowledge.

    We are building all the parts to conform with Car spec. Meaning KarPC is built only with parts that will survive the cars abuse. This enables KarPC to be the most durable, most compact, and most complete Car solution.

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    You mentioned that "older vehicles" would require more work to get climate control working.

    Even many newer vehicles use vacuum lines and/or mechanical cables to operate various air doors within the car's HVAC system. There are several posts on this site about people having problems interfacing with newer cars.

    How are you handling this? Also, with so many climate control configurations on the market, how do you handle all of them? (e.g. the combination of pushbuttons, rotary controls, and sensors varies from make to make and even from model to model.)

    What type of outputs will your climate control module have? Are we talking relay outputs, digital I/O, D/A converter outputs, or a combination thereof?
    Jason Johnson
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    http://www.m2pc.com

    MPC Phase IV - *** PENDING ***

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    jjohnson,

    We have not finalize the design for the Climate control. We will share more about this when we can. Be it that all cars are different it will most likely be multiple climate modules.

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