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Thread: Survey: Startup times and methods

  1. #51
    FLAC
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    I've changed out a few more components in my system.

    1. Hardware Configuration
    * Asus K8N nF3 250 Socket 754
    * AMD Sempron 3000+ 64bit Socket 754 CPU 1.8GHz, 128KB L2 Cache - about 30w max at stock 1.4v, has "Cool and Quiet" and 90nm core.
    * 512mb RAM
    * new Seagate 160G HDD at 7200rpm
    * Radeon 7000 RV6P-NA3 32MB PCI DVI-I/TV OUT
    * Chaintech AV-710 soundcard for sweet, sweet, S/P DIF sound.
    * Opus 150

    2. Software Configuration
    * Windows XP Pro Corp (fresh install)
    * RoadRunner
    * IR reciever for steering wheel buttons

    3. Startup Strategy
    * regular hibernation
    * also using S3 Standby

    4. Startup time, broken down by component of possible
    * startup controller delay - standard 6 second delay of Opus 150 (anyone know how to shorten this?)
    * BIOS delay - 4 seconds for video card alone, then 10 sec for mobo BIOS
    * boot time or restore from disk/ram time - HDD loading from hibernation is 2 seconds (much much quicker than before)
    * application startup time (cold boot only) - N/A
    * total time from startup initiation (ignition or remote entry) until music comes from speakers - about 28 seconds which is fine with me
    * Using S3 suspend/standby I get music in about 6 seconds

    5. Subjective information
    * On a scale of 1 (not important) to 10 (very important) how important is a quick startup time? 8
    * On a scale of 1 (not satisfied) to 10 (very satisfied) how do you feel about the startup time of your system? 7 or so from hibernation. A 9 from S3. I like it!
    * On a scale of 1 (not important) to 10 (very important) rate how interested you are in improving your startup time. 2

    My new HDD is quieter than the old one as well as much, much cooler running.

    My Optima Red Top is starting to have problems with the load when off. I may have to replace it once I reduce the PC load.
    Right now I have a 220mA draw at the battery.
    20 is from the car
    86 is from my sound system (I'll have to look into that) and
    115 is from the PC

    I'm going to mod the Opus 150 to have it not supply power to the mobo when off and then just use hibernation. It's the only thing I can think of short of adding a solar panel in the dash to help recharge the battery. I'm not too fond of that idea right now. Still, if I don't drive the car over the weekend the battery will get down too low to crank it. Right now I just cut power manually on Sat and connect it the next time I get in.
    1999 Black Pontiac Trans Am
    CarPC's in F-bodies
    How To Relocate Climate Controls on the 97-02 F-body Cars
    (AMD Sempron 3000+, Opus 150)
    Car PC system is out, Alpine system is in.

  2. #52
    Variable Bitrate
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    VIA Epia M1000
    512Mb RAM
    250Gb WD Caviar SE HDD (3.5'')
    Creative Audigy SE

    Shutdown/boot method : Hibernation
    Normal time :
    -bios : 15
    -WinXP pro : 45-100 (depending on what I'm resuming from)

    Also I still haven't updated my BIOS, so if I have USB devices plugged in sometimes it can take multiple minutes even to just resume from hibernation

  3. #53
    FLAC
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    Ouch! That's a long time for it to read from the HDD. My little bar zips accross super fast for me. We're both running XP and both have modern fast HDD's.

    What do you think is really slowing it down?
    Have you checked to see how much of the RAM is being used while the system is running?
    Have you made sure the HDD interface is DMA and not one of the slower PIO modes?
    Maybe you can try unplugging all USB devices to see if it makes a difference in boot time.
    1999 Black Pontiac Trans Am
    CarPC's in F-bodies
    How To Relocate Climate Controls on the 97-02 F-body Cars
    (AMD Sempron 3000+, Opus 150)
    Car PC system is out, Alpine system is in.

  4. #54
    DIGItonium
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    It's usually the drivers that slowdown the boot process since I don't have anything loaded in the background and my XP install eats up only 230MB before installing drivers. XP is super zippy when I boot off my CF card. Once I loaded the mobo, video, and audio drivers... boot times weren't snappy.

    My CF card is also running in PIO mode at the moment, but I'm trying to get my hands on a UDMA card for a speedier interface. Once Fixed Disk mode is recognized, I can finally install the nVIDIA IDE drivers. It makes a huge difference in performance. With a cheapo 4.3GB hard drive, XP booted up so fast the scrollbar didn't get to scroll at all! That rivals my Raptor-based system.

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    Easiest way to get the fastest startup is to turn off every unneccessary service and application in windows, then configure your bios to disable all unused onboard hardware. It sped up by boot process by about a minute.

  6. #56
    FLAC
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    Quote Originally Posted by mangina24 View Post
    Easiest way to get the fastest startup is to turn off every unneccessary service and application in windows, then configure your bios to disable all unused onboard hardware.
    I run a full version of XP with nothing turned off an it loads in like 2 seconds, so that won't work for everyone.
    I agree with you on the BIOS. Turn off any devices your not using.
    Sometimes plugging USB devices straight into the mobo rather than linking devices together can also help.
    1999 Black Pontiac Trans Am
    CarPC's in F-bodies
    How To Relocate Climate Controls on the 97-02 F-body Cars
    (AMD Sempron 3000+, Opus 150)
    Car PC system is out, Alpine system is in.

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    Ok, here's my experience so far:

    1st the setup:

    WinXP Professional SP2
    VIA EPIA EN15000 Mini-Itx
    1 Gig Ram
    Seagate EE25 40G
    OPUS 120 watt DC-DC power Supply
    Xenarc 700TSV - VGA Monitor with touchscreen and video inputs
    Road Runner with Blue Devil Skin
    IGuidance 3.0 / BU-353 Weather-proof GPS Receiver
    OPUS Mini-ITX Vehicle PC Case w/ built in 120w power supply

    Configuration notes:
    -- tweaded XP by turning of unnecessary services and booting into RR directly
    -- running xport & AutoNetWorkDetect (may add more later) from a script started by RR

    The results(cold boot):

    22 seconds from key turn till boot screen
    10 seconds bootscreen displaying
    8 seconds from bootscreen going off till I have a background image
    7 seconds for RR load
    4 seconds till I hear music


    5. Subjective information
    * On a scale of 1 (not important) to 10 (very important) how important is a quick startup time? 8
    * On a scale of 1 (not satisfied) to 10 (very satisfied) how do you feel about the startup time of your system? 3
    * On a scale of 1 (not important) to 10 (very important) rate how interested you are in improving your startup time. 9


    Nasa

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