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    Yep, if you really want a store of XP on the drive so it never asks for the XP CD do it properly and get the OEM version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElKeeed
    Yep, if you really want a store of XP on the drive so it never asks for the XP CD do it properly and get the OEM version.
    The OEM version or retail version of Windows has nothing to do with whether Windows is going to ask you for the CD at any point. All versions of XP copy the install files over to the HDD so that if you make an OS change, it's not going to ask for the CD. Been that way since Win2000.

    Frankly, wizardPC has the simplest solution to jasondavis' original problem.

    Here's my take:
    jasondavis has a PC with a brand-new hard drive. It's not partitioned or formatted. He has a USB key with the WinXP install files on it, I believe.
    That's a great start, except you'd beed some way to boot to the HDD and load drivers to read the USB key. That needs a boot floppy or boot CD, but he's got no drive.
    Easy solution: temporarily hook up a CDROM drive, then remove it once Windoze is fully loaded.
    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
    How about the Wiki?



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    I dunno about that Darque. Get a bad shutdown or something, and a system file becomes corrupt, you may see a prompt asking for an XP cd. I know I've seen it before a few times, this is why I now copy it to the hdd.

    Home-brew PVRs, people don't understand you can't just shut them off dammit.
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    i'll let you folks battle this out. if you want the easiest solution, see my post above.

    btw - mc chris rules!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tj!2k4
    i'll let you folks battle this out. if you want the easiest solution, see my post above.

    btw - mc chris rules!
    And, to bring you back into this, what if his PC doesn't support booting from a USB device completely?

    EDIT: yeah, mc chris freakin' rules.
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    I can say that the bios does see the usb hard drive because it gives me the option to choose it to boot from it, but it doesn't see the files I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarquePervert
    The OEM version or retail version of Windows has nothing to do with whether Windows is going to ask you for the CD at any point. All versions of XP copy the install files over to the HDD so that if you make an OS change, it's not going to ask for the CD. Been that way since Win2000.
    This is quite simply untrue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasondavis
    I can say that the bios does see the usb hard drive because it gives me the option to choose it to boot from it, but it doesn't see the files I guess
    Have you actually set up a bootable partition or just copied the files from the cd? CDs dont boot from the partition you see, they have a seperate bit that gets loaded first, you need that bit. You will have to extract it with a CD writing program.

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    All you guys saying to "just copy the contents of the CD over to the HDD and istall from there" are forgetting one very important thing, Microsoft's lovely disc protection, not all of the files needed for an install will be copied because some of them are in a protected portion of the disc, at least on legal copies.

    Now there are a couple of ways you can get XP installed AND never need the actual CD in the future. If you absolutely can not attatch an optical drive you can do a network instalation, setting things up to do this is a royal pain in the *** and I really don't recomend it unless there is no other option. The easiest way to do what you want is going to be hook up an optical drive, install XP then copy the contents of the disc to the HDD, all of the files needed to repair an instalation can be copied, you just can't start one.

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    It's not disc protection, its just the way bootable cds work. Nothing to do with MS really.

    Yeah setting up an network install on the HD is prolly your best bet with a regular XP disc. You can see how to do that from search.microsoft.com. If you do a HD install from \i386\winnt.exe it clears up the files afterwards unfortunatly. (That is unless you do the oem install)

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