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    Quote Originally Posted by ElKeeed
    It's not disc protection, its just the way bootable cds work. Nothing to do with MS really.
    While there are certain files on every bootable CD that can't just be copied, the retail discs for XP Pro also contain additional ant-piracy / copy protection. I can't tell you what they are because I work at MS and don't feel like getting fired, but if you do a quick google search you can find plenty of ways around it. I don't know about the OEM or Home discs since I don't really work with those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by don-m
    While there are certain files on every bootable CD that can't just be copied, the retail discs for XP Pro also contain additional ant-piracy / copy protection. I can't tell you what they are because I work at MS and don't feel like getting fired, but if you do a quick google search you can find plenty of ways around it. I don't know about the OEM or Home discs since I don't really work with those.
    That's funny. I used to be the head tech at a pc repair shop, and never ran into a problem installing off of a disc that I had copied, whether it be retail or OEM. And, I've done an install of every flavor of XP with a copy. Pro retail & OEM, Home retail and OEM, Pro & Home Upgrade, Pro Vol Lic., Longhorn (Vista), Server 2003 SB & Enterprise, and Media Center (basically pro with a neat program).

    I dunno man, I find that really hard to believe that MS thinks they could copy protect their retail version of XP Pro. Do you really work at MS or are you joking... if it is a joke, fess up now, or you'll really look like a retard later.

    Now, the main reason I find this retarded, is because people like to make copies of the software they own. If MS put some kind of junk on the cd to make it copy protected, they would probably have a lawsuit on their hands. It doesn't make sense that if I scratched my CD, I'm going to have to drop another $200+ to get another copy of XP. That's stupid.

    P.S. Did a quick search and couldn't find ****.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tidder
    . If MS put some kind of junk on the cd to make it copy protected, they would probably have a lawsuit on their hands.

    <cough> sony <cough>arccos<cough>

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    <cough>macrovision

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    Quote Originally Posted by lez
    <cough> sony <cough>arccos<cough>

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    <cough>macrovision
    Oh shutup That's different.

    DVD: $19.95
    XP Home Retail: $199.95

    Which one you gonna be more ****ed about scratching?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tidder
    Oh shutup That's different.
    Lol


    DVD: $19.95
    XP Home Retail: $199.95

    Which one you gonna be more ****ed about scratching?
    The bloody dvd it would take hours to find a torrent for series 1 of 'earth 2' !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tidder
    I dunno about that Darque. Get a bad shutdown or something, and a system file becomes corrupt, you may see a prompt asking for an XP cd. I know I've seen it before a few times, this is why I now copy it to the hdd.

    Home-brew PVRs, people don't understand you can't just shut them off dammit.
    You have a point there, but it has nothing to do with Windows asking for the CD for changes to the system, which is the situiation I referred to. I certainly wasn't specific, etiher.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElKeeed
    This is quite simply untrue.
    Really? It's been that way for every installation of Win2000 and WinXP I've every done... And I've done quite a few (hundreds?) in the past 6 years or so. So I'm curious to know the data on which you base your rebuff of my statement.
    Hell, if you know how to setup a box properly, you can pull the same result off with Win9x. Setup files aren't copied to the HDD as a part of OS installation witn Win9x. They are in Win2K & WinXP, however.
    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
    How about the Wiki?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tidder
    That's funny. I used to be the head tech at a pc repair shop, and never ran into a problem installing off of a disc that I had copied, whether it be retail or OEM. And, I've done an install of every flavor of XP with a copy. Pro retail & OEM, Home retail and OEM, Pro & Home Upgrade, Pro Vol Lic., Longhorn (Vista), Server 2003 SB & Enterprise, and Media Center (basically pro with a neat program).

    I dunno man, I find that really hard to believe that MS thinks they could copy protect their retail version of XP Pro. Do you really work at MS or are you joking... if it is a joke, fess up now, or you'll really look like a retard later.
    You realise that you basically just admitted you run pirated software, Vista is nowhere near release, it hasn't gone to public Beta, and the fact that you called it by it's old codename (longhorn) puts your chances of having a legal copy of Beta 1 at slim to nil. Also the likelyhood of a pc repair shop or an individual having a legitimate license for Server 2003 Enterprise (a product which retails for over $3,000) is pretty much non-existant. If I were at work I'd have to report you, but since I'm at home, I could really care less.

    Yes, I really do work at Microsoft, Building 42 /43 IIS Lab at the Redmond campus to be specific. The copy protections were actually broken before release, at which point they kind of said hell with it and dropped the whole issue, Server 2003 shipped without any attempt at copy protection (anti-piracy is still intact).

    I would really like to get off the copy protection subject because as much as I want to, the only thing I can tell you about it is that it exists, it was unaffective, and they abandoned it with subsequent releases, if I were to give any specifics it would violate the confidentiality agreement that every Microsoft employee, contractor and on-site visitor (including Job shadows and interns) must sign.


    Besides the subject at hand here is how jasondavis can install without an optical drive.

    The easiest way is going to be to temporarily attach an ODD and install from there. While rare there are certain times when even XP will ask for the disk, they are few and far between so most people will never encounter them, but the possibility exists, so if you want to guarantee that you will not need a CD in the future you will want to copy the files to the HDD after the install.

    If it is absolutely impossible to connect an optical drive a network install is your best option, they are a royal pain to setup, so my advice is to setup the network install folder on a separate, blank partition, then after your install is finished image that partition, that way you have an already prepped install folder should you ever need it in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by don-m
    You realise that you basically just admitted you run pirated software, Vista is nowhere near release, it hasn't gone to public Beta, and the fact that you called it by it's old codename (longhorn) puts your chances of having a legal copy of Beta 1 at slim to nil. Also the likelyhood of a pc repair shop or an individual having a legitimate license for Server 2003 Enterprise (a product which retails for over $3,000) is pretty much non-existant. If I were at work I'd have to report you, but since I'm at home, I could really care less.

    Yes, I really do work at Microsoft, Building 42 /43 IIS Lab at the Redmond campus to be specific. The copy protections were actually broken before release, at which point they kind of said hell with it and dropped the whole issue, Server 2003 shipped without any attempt at copy protection (anti-piracy is still intact).

    I would really like to get off the copy protection subject because as much as I want to, the only thing I can tell you about it is that it exists, it was unaffective, and they abandoned it with subsequent releases, if I were to give any specifics it would violate the confidentiality agreement that every Microsoft employee, contractor and on-site visitor (including Job shadows and interns) must sign.
    lol, that's funny. Microsoft... come get me.

    It's not pirated if I have software only. It's an issue if I have a cd key that's not mine... do you not know anything about running a computer repair shop? I have backup copies of all MS software, but I don't keep keys for them in the shop, I use the customer's keys for the job at hand... but keys are all over the internet if I ever choose to go that route.

    And as far as vista goes, how do you know that I do not have an MSDN subscription? It was released not too long ago on there, I just saw the other day when I was downloading another copy of Server 2003 enterprise...

    Anyway, love givin you a hard time,

    Tidder

    P.S. Working for microsoft is pretty fun I bet eh? Well, good luck with that. Oh, and do you realize realize is spelled with a z? (Sorry man, I just can't get off it... )
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    What can I say, I'm an *** hole today.

    (and a poet it seems too, how gay)
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    Quote Originally Posted by don-m
    If I were at work I'd have to report you, but since I'm at home, I could really care less.
    I'm sorry, I still can't get over this one... it just makes me laugh.

    I have no doubt that you do work for microsoft and blah blah blah, but get off your high horse.

    (I'm sorry, I'll leave you alone now, it's just one of those days...)
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