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    California Carputer Legality?

    I was wondering if anyone out there new the exact law for carputers in CA. I have heard there is a law against a screen in view of the drive. Is that only if video is playing?

    Also, at a stereo shop I noticed stickers saying that video playback would only work if the parking break was engaged. Is that a requirement or just the manufacturor covering there own *** from lawsuits?

    Any one out there have any run in with the cops and there carputer?

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    Last time I got pulled over with the carputer on. When the officer asked if I had a TV in the car, I just replied that it's a navigation system. (Make sure you turn iGuidance on before he approaches your window -- just to be on the safe side).

    As for exact laws, I only know that you're not allowed to watch videos/movies while the car is in motion. And about screens, many cars come with factory navigation systems and even engine management status displays (Toyota Prius, Lexus RX400h, etc.). I don't see them being considered illegal in any way.
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    in the end it's always going to be at the officers discression & what impression he gets from you, not to mention what he see's when first observing you & on final aproach to the vehicle..... he's out there looking for his interpitation of what he deams safe & unsafe..... the actual legalitys hopefully isn't something you'd have to get into until after the fact... if it ever came to that

    I got pulled over once & I had an ebay page on my screen.....the officer just said " you don't use that when your driving, do you.." & I said no, of course not...... he then asked a few other questions about the setup.... I showed him the keyboard in the visor....... it was left at that

    had I been a young kid in a riced out honda same situation instead of an older dude with a minivan though, I garentee I'd be screwed.....

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    I think I read somewhere that CarPCs are known to cause cancer in the state of california... I'd wait until your across state borders to turn it on, just to be health-conscious.....
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    yeah, cali officers can be pricks..... I know a guy who got a ticket for clear lenses on his lexus a few years back..... & they were factory the officer didn't want to hear anything...... he did win in court though.....

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    Regarding CA laws... I recently read (I can't find it now, but it's out there) taht you can't have and video display in front of the back most part of the front seats. Lame wording, but that's what it said. Exceptions are for GPS, nav, front/rear cameras, vehicle information, etc.

    So just keep the visualizations off when the peace officer makes his way up to your ride

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    I think there's also an 'interlock device' clause, which says that there must be an interlock to prevent the front screens from being used as anything other than the 'acceptable uses' while the vehicle is in motion. OEM's normally build this into the parking brake, and some people disable it.

    I consider 'myself' to be the interlock device. Not sure how good of an argument that is though. It's at least probably a good idea if you take any 'DVD' options off the front, and try to make it look as oem as possible.

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    Someone can make a GPS program that can act as an interlock device. And it should be easily disabled

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    i got a queastion
    how about u use the sceen as a mp3 playes are those illegale?

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    I did a quick search. I think this is the current law in CA. It was passed in Jan 2004.

    California law (AB 301) explicitly bans the use of any visual device, like video monitors or screen or any similar way to visually displaying video. The text of this new bill says:

    "Existing law prohibits any person from driving a motor vehicle that is equipped with a television receiver, screen, or other means of visually receiving a television broadcast, if the device is located in the motor vehicle at any point forward of the back of the driverís seat, or is visible to the driver while operating the motor vehicle. This prohibition does not apply to a mobile digital terminal installed in a law enforcement vehicle.

    This bill would recast this prohibition and, additionally, would prohibit any person from driving a motor vehicle if a video monitor, or a video screen, or any other, similar means of visually displaying a video signal that produces entertainment or business applications, is operating and is located in the motor vehicle at any point forward of the back of the driverís seat, or is operating and visible to the driver while driving the motor vehicle. This prohibition would not apply to specified equipment or to a motor vehicle providing emergency road service or roadside assistance. Because a violation of this prohibition would be a crime, the bill would establish a state-mandated local program.

    A person may not drive a motor vehicle if a television receiver, a video monitor, or a television or video screen, or any other, similar means of visually displaying a television broadcast or video signal that produces entertainment or business applications, is operating and is located in the motor vehicle at any point forward of the back of the driverís seat, or is operating and visible to the driver while driving the motor vehicle. (b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to the following equipment when installed in a vehicle:
    (1) A vehicle information display.
    (2) A global positioning display.
    (3) A mapping display.
    (4) A visual display used to enhance or supplement the driverís view forward, behind, or to the sides of a motor vehicle for the purpose of maneuvering the vehicle.
    (5) A television receiver, video monitor, television or video screen, or any other, similar means of visually displaying a television broadcast or video signal, if that equipment has an interlock device that, when the motor vehicle is driven, disables the equipment for all uses except as a visual display as described in paragraphs (1) to (4), inclusive."
    It looks to me like an MP3 player on video screen while driving would be illegal in California.

    What you should do is install NAVIVOICE and when the police pull you over yell Boris - "it's the cops" and configure your computer to switch to Navigation and lock out all Video, TV, DVD, etc. functionality.

    The above is for informational purposes and is not to be construed as legal advice...or technical advice for that matter.

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