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    Quote Originally Posted by Toehead
    thanks for the reply man. My car is so close to completion. I hollowwed out the rear seat to hold the carputer. I'll get some pictures soon. It is wired into the sound system (kenwood 600 watt amp powering pioneer 3 way speakers ) and also the ECM to monitor aldl data. FUN FUN.
    How's this screen? http://cgi.ebay.com/8-VGA-TFT-LCD-To...QQcmdZViewItem
    Is the PC in the rear cushion kind of like my amps or do you mean in a bottom rear cushion?

    I can't say on that LCD. You might want to check the forum and do a search on it. I wouldn't get anything less than a Liliput on the cheap end and maybe a Xenarc on the more expensive end. That one you showed is pretty cheap, so I'm wondering if the specs are correct. You never know, the display may not be as bright as they said it was. I trust the Liliput specs.

    Did you measure your dash opening to see how big of a screen you could get in there?

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    sort of like your amps. The plexi glass case I made is horribly ugly though... the plexi I used was ancient and too brittle to make a nice case. Good thing you dont see it lol.
    I'll go do a search on the forum. It is certainly cheap... I don't need anything extravegant. I'm looking for "adequate"
    Thanks for all your help.
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    Here are some pics of my install so far. Still have lots of work todo.

    Need to hack up my lilli and radio bezel but im using this setup for now:
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    You cant see the screen here because of the camera flash but its a pretty acurate representation of how bad the reflection is when I am out driving during the day. It sucks!
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    Here is my USB port and ON/AUTO/OFF switch for my m2-atx
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    One more thing...here is what I used for a temporary mount for my lilli. It worked pretty well.

    Just get a bolt the same size as the lilli mount bolt but much longer. Take off your radio bezel and mount the bolt as shown securing it with one nut. Put a 2nd nut on it and the square lilli nut on the very end. Slide your lilliput down on the square nut and loosen the 2nd nut on the bolt....this will put pressure on the lilli mount and hold your screen in place.

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    Need: daylight viewable screen!

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    Nice thread Jason. I have a 2002 Pontiac Trans Am. I am just fed up with my clarion deck. I have been comtemplating this for a while. I guess i'm goin to try an tackle this in a couple of months. I will post as it goes. I have one question though. I prolly know its already been discussed but I searched an couldnt find it. Is there any way or has anyone come up with a way of losing the stock a/c controls an possibly having the controlled by the car puter. I mean most of it is electrical, except for I believe a vacuum line and another line (not sure what it is lol) sorry im more of a mechanical guy than a electrical. Anyways I was just wondering if it could be done. That way u still have the clean look. Also with the space of your glove compartment and center console or where ever u might stick it. Also on a side not that last camaro added on the first page is clean looking. Very clean and nice install I wish our dashes were that tall that way we could keep it stock looking as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by transam02
    Is there any way or has anyone come up with a way of losing the stock a/c controls an possibly having the controlled by the car puter.
    One guy did it a few years ago, but he was an electrical engineer. He used solenoids to control the vacuum switches, the electrical switches used relays and the cable was controlled by a servo. I don't think he finished it completely with the auto climate circuit and so forth, but it did work.

    You would be looking at major dollars and need a lot of knowhow to do it. I doubt mere mortals could build something like that. I'm not going to try.

    Here is the thread. He is selling the parts due to selling his camaro and getting a GTO.
    A/C Control Electrical,Vacuum, and Mechanical

    I was just thinking about relocating the controls the other day. I've been considering mounting a 10.5" over the center control area. Just recess the A/C controls back a little and have the whole LCD and shroud move up and down to reveal the controls. If the center vents weren't blowing, I could leave it up. Unfortunately, the more I think about it the more I think the flushed look like Bernhard used is the way to go. It just looks so factory. I think the center console is my best bet for the A/C controls because it's not a reach and I can also mount my Alpine H700 controller faceplate next to it as well.

    When I get some extra cash I'm going to go to the junkyard and get the vacuum lines from the controls to over by glovebox area. If you remove the plastic undertray you will see that all 6 vacuum lines plug into a connector. I'm going to get that connector and as much of the lines as I can. That way I can make a plugin, removable vacuum line extension cable. I think it will be better than cutting the hard plastic lines and extending them, but it's hard to say which is the better idea.

    I think I know how to extend the cables as well using a bicycle brake cable sheath and a new length of cable. I can cut the factry sheath and splice in the new extension piece. Then run a new, longer cable through it. Should be pretty easy.

    As far as the electrical goes, I could just extend the wires by cutting them and soldering in new pieces. The other way is to add a molex connector to the factory wires to make it unplugable. Then make an extension set of wires using the same molex pugs. That way I can add or remove the extension wires. It's more work, though. If I just extend the wires by soldering them they might be able to tuck under the dash if I ever move the controls back to stock. Or there might not be enough room. I don't know.

    All in all, I don't think the relocation would be that hard. With thecontrols under the console lid it will make the interior real clean looking. The dash area will be a flat blank slab until the stereo is turned on. I think it would be classy.

    If you are fine with a smaller 7" screen, you can do like Curious did. That looks real factory. You can leave off the buttons along the left side if you want. I'm not doing it that way because I want the biggest screen I can get. It makes everything easy to see and read while driving.
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    Yea I leaning more to the 10" screen. Im like you its bigger an makes it easier to read lol. I'm not blind but I would like to see everything a lil better than the 7" I have now lol. What I will prolly do then is mount my a/c controls in the glove box. I dont hardly use it. What sucks is my wife has a 98 maxima an it has enough room on her dash to put that 10" screen an still some room left I believe. Oh well thanks for the info. I will start a post when I start it. Like I said it will be a couple of months. I still have a few more months till my car is paid off lol. So I will wait till after then that way I wont be short on funds.

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    Meissenation re-did his dash to a red and black two-tone. Check it out on page 1 of this thread as well as here:
    http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=485792

    I like it.
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    Here is my install as it is today and below that is a photoshop of what I might do. Should I keep the divider between A/C and screen, make it smaller, or get rid of it? What do you guys think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoTicketsPlease
    Here is my install as it is today and below that is a photoshop of what I might do. Should I keep the divider between A/C and screen, make it smaller, or get rid of it? What do you guys think?

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    It's up to you. Can you leave it that size or does it block the bottom of the screen?
    I'm thinking you should leave it as is or make it a bit smaller depending on the above answer.

    Bonding the controls to the big bezel doesn't seem like a good idea to me. It looks OK, but how could you blend in the seam between the two?
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